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LarssonCrew
Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Question to those in Xian |
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Hey guys, I posted a thread here a while back asking what to do in my first week in China, was met with positivity before it veered onto the price of beer, anyways, I'll be heading to Xian in the next couple of weeks and have a few questions:
I've heard the pollution is awful...just how bad?Coming from a guy who's lived in and around London, will it shock me?
What standards are most provided apartments like?
What are living costs generally like?
Will I have any problems attaining medicine[I'm diabetic]? Or should I bring an absolute truck load from home?
How do/did you guys reach the city? From London it seems to be a job lot of London -> Beijing or Shanghai and then internal flight of train, adding another $120 to my journey.
What's it generally like for nightlife and eating out and entertainment?I've checked on google and there seems to be about 3 websites all copying each other and not proving particularly useful.
Finally, and this is a long shot, does any one know if the EPL, SLL or ECL is shown in any bars in the city? Would love to be able to catch up [although a Saturday 3pm kick off is what?10-11 in China, argh.]
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: Just realised I've put this in the wrong China forum o_O Apologise, but I'm hot and bothered, could someone move this to 'non job related' etc. Cheers. |
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Sonnibarger
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 320 Location: Wuhan
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:21 am Post subject: |
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its difficult to say...
1) pollution may be a big issue for you... for me it wasnt so bad.. i do miss seeing more than 300M before everything turns grey, also picking black crap out of ur nose is a bit of a hassle..
2) The housing ranges from great to unbearable pretty fast.. usually Unis offer a good place but its often out in the sticks
3) You can live on the cheap or blow half ur pay in a weekend.. try and skip the big western meals when possible.. also a good idea to have a few street beers before u make ur way to the pub/club.
4)meds shouldnt be a problem... the language might be an issue tho.. get a co-worked to write a note in chinese.
5)tickets for trains are next to impossible to get this time of year... flight maybe the best option... watch ur stuff in train stations... once the pushing match starts u may find ur wallet missing
6)should be a couple pubs in the city that will show it live... a lot of time they will put on a happy hour for games.
hope that helps |
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cormac
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 768 Location: Xi'an (XTU)
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Question to those in Xian |
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LarssonCrew wrote: |
I've heard the pollution is awful...just how bad?Coming from a guy who's lived in and around London, will it shock me? |
Not really. I found the pollution to be only noticeable when I first arrived and later when the wind blew hard from the south, bringing the fumes from industrial areas. Once I got past the strange colored snot, I rarely noticed the pollution beyond the "mist" that can occur early in the morning which most definitely doesn't look natural.
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What standards are most provided apartments like? |
Depends on the school in question, since most of them are owned by one school or another and might be rented out to another school depending on their relations.
My own Apartment was spot on. A few damaged lights and such from when the Earthquake occurred which were never fixed, but other than that it was quite roomy and comfortable.
Friends from other schools however had serious issues with water supply, broken windows, dodgy security etc. Its pure luck.
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What are living costs generally like? |
Compared to where? I found Xi'an extremely cheap for most things, except Western foods/luxuries. But I was quite happy with the huge variety of chinese food on offer, and the drinking options.
Let me put it this way. I earned 4,999rmb a month, accommodation free. Maybe 100-150 rmb for apartment bills. Another 100rmb for phone. Then I would go out clubbing 5 nights a week for three-four weeks, spend most of my money, and be able to live at a comfortable rate with 700 rmb.
It really depends on what you're going to be spending money on. I like taxi's, chinese food, plenty of booze, clubs and KTV. I still managed to have plenty of money available for the whole month (with a few exceptions).
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Will I have any problems attaining medicine[I'm diabetic]? Or should I bring an absolute truck load from home? |
No idea. Sorry.
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How do/did you guys reach the city? From London it seems to be a job lot of London -> Beijing or Shanghai and then internal flight of train, adding another $120 to my journey. |
I flew from Brisbane to Beijing and then fly on to Xi'an. easiest.
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What's it generally like for nightlife and eating out and entertainment?I've checked on google and there seems to be about 3 websites all copying each other and not proving particularly useful. |
Its fun. Don't expect the height of entertainment and you'll enjoy yourself. Xi'an is not Shanghai or Beijing. But it does have 5-6 fairly ok clubs which usually have a good crowd each night of the week. The great thing is that they're all within 10-15 minutes walk of each other so you can do a complete circuit easily. Free entrance is also nice.
I'm not much of a bar person, but there are a few areas. All quite easy to get to, and some with decent prices for beer. Shop around. |
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Hansen
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 737 Location: central China
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I notice that there are quite a few alcoholics posting here. I doubt that many people care, but I have been told by a food chemist that nearly all beer here has formaldehyde in it, as a preservative. The information came from a food chemist at an English corner, so take it or leave it.
Those who have tasted pineapple beer, certain brands in particular, may have noticed a very sweet taste which stays in your mouth, long after you've stopped drinking. I'm fairly certain that is antifreeze, although I might be wrong.
I can't think of any other food or drink which has a lingering sweetness like pineapple beer. Having tasted antifreeze before, while working on a car, there is a distinct resemblance.
As for the formaldehyde, corpses and body parts aren't bothered by it, so you might not be either. It's entirely possible that small amounts are not harmful, if there is, indeed formaldehyde in beer.
Good luck. |
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cormac
Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 768 Location: Xi'an (XTU)
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hansen wrote: |
I notice that there are quite a few alcoholics posting here. I doubt that many people care, but I have been told by a food chemist that nearly all beer here has formaldehyde in it, as a preservative. The information came from a food chemist at an English corner, so take it or leave it. |
Nah, not going to take it or leave it... Especially since I'm relegated to an alcoholic simply because I like to drink. Too many people seem to think if you like to have drinks after work, or get a little drunk on your night off, then you're an alcoholic. Well, sorry to break it to you, but they're not. Its perfectly natural. Being Irish, I'm well aware of the difference between enjoying drinking, and being an alcoholic. You might like to determine the difference yourself.
As for Chinese beer, I find it often better than its European counterparts. The alcohol content is usually lower, and tends to taste better. That could be due to the German Brewer influences in Chengdu and other brewing spots in China. |
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Gunner
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard the pollution is awful...just how bad?Coming from a guy who's lived in and around London, will it shock me? |
Coming from London, I don't think it will shock you.
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What standards are most provided apartments like? |
From mates I've had that stay in them, they say that they are usually quite reasonable. And if you dislike them, can usually improve it with a chat to your boss.
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What are living costs generally like? |
It really depends on if you'll eat the chinese food, or if you are going to go more for the Western stuff. Western costs are similar to what they are in US and Aus in terms of food, but everything else is relatively cheap, so if you're being paid a reasonable amount you should be ok.
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Will I have any problems attaining medicine[I'm diabetic]? Or should I bring an absolute truck load from home? |
I'd say bring some from home. I got really sick last year, and even with my Chinese g/f it was a struggle getting medicine.
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How do/did you guys reach the city? From London it seems to be a job lot of London -> Beijing or Shanghai and then internal flight of train, adding another $120 to my journey. |
There's no other way than to go to Beijing or Shanghai to do it. If you've got Chinese friends already, get them to book the ticket for you on a Chinese website (www.tj88888888.com is good for Xi'an) as it should be much cheaper than on the Western websites.
[quote]What's it generally like for nightlife and eating out and entertainment?I've checked on google and there seems to be about 3 websites all copying each other and not proving particularly useful.[quote]
Depends what you're into. There are a lot of local bars that do all sorts of things so your best bet would be to come here and check them out. Park Qin at the South Gate is a good one, but you need a membership card to get in which you can usually only get if you already know someone there.
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Finally, and this is a long shot, does any one know if the EPL, SLL or ECL is shown in any bars in the city? Would love to be able to catch up [although a Saturday 3pm kick off is what?10-11 in China, argh.] |
Park Qin screens the EPL. Other than that, there are various bars around the Bell Tower area that will show it. |
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LarssonCrew
Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback so far.
I've sorted the medicine problem, and have the precise name in Mandarin that I need to ask for when I attend a chemist, as well as the names for diabetes etc. printed.
As for getting to Xi'an, yep, seems it's a fly in and then internal, but the direct flight UK to Beijing is 'only' 10 hours so I should be fine.
And as for getting the EPL, with it being a touristy area the EPL games should not be a problem :)
Also, I tend to do mostly Chinese, suppose I will allow myself the occasional westernised treat, so earning 8,000 RMB in Xi'an I assume I will be 'ok'. Would be nice to save a couple thousand RMB a month to take a trip [would love to go to Tibet, the train passes through Xi'an].
Also, when I arrive, is it 'sad' to get the touristy things out the way as a way of reminding myself I'm not there for just a few days as part of a tour? I was planning on visiting the warriors obviously, bell tower etc. just to acclimatise and get it out the way. Gotta keep an eye on spending, but planning on taking about 10,000 RMB if not more to last me the first month. |
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Gunner
Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Assuming you have an apartment provided, 8000 is certainly enough.
And it's certainly not sad to do the touristy things when you arrive, as by the time you start working and making friends, you probably won't have time or interest in going to the touristy destinations :p |
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Hansen
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 737 Location: central China
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Cormac, Notice that you are the only one who bothers to "deny" being an alcoholic. It's called denial. Anyone who likes to get drunk, in my opinion, is an alcoholic. There are many different types of alcoholics, high functioning ones are still alcoholics.
Be interesting to see where you are in 3, 5, 10 years. Maybe then you will "come clean" and admit your problem. |
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Dancing Monkey
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Hansen,
I respectfully deny that I am an alcoholic because I enjoy "getting drunk" every now and then. How would you know what an "alcoholic" is if you aren't one?
Perhaps you are a geek? As you know, anyone who is a geek won't admit it. It's called denial.
"Come clean and admit your problem." |
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LarssonCrew
Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: |
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An alcoholic is someone who is alcohol dependent. Going out and getting trashed once a week is not alcoholism, because you do not rely on it the other 6 days, but it is binge drinking. |
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