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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I loved the spat about Appalacia - I have always wanted to visit on account of bluegrass music. My liberal US friends tell me it's pretty grim, though. Who am I to believe??
Back to the question: Italians are fabulously kind, generous and hospitable people, as long as you aren't in a car. Then they become the most selfish, unreasonable and ignorant people you will ever meet anywhere.
Like with anything, it depends on how you see people, how much you know of the culture, and how adaptable you are to local customs. In the words of John Steinbeck (Cannery Row) "Its inhabitants are, as the man once said, "whores, pimps, gamblers, and sons of bitches," by which he meant Everybody. Had the man looked through another peep-hole he might have said: "Saints and angels and martyrs and holy men," and he would have meant the same thing. |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I loved the spat about Appalacia - I have always wanted to visit on account of bluegrass music. My liberal US friends tell me it's pretty grim, though. Who am I to believe?? |
They're liberals and, like conservatives, they are not to be believed. Yes, depending on what part of Appalachia you're in there's quite a bit of poverty (particularly in Eastern Kentucky/Southwestern West Virginia) and, for many of the people there, things are pretty grim. But my experiences among them have been positive. You should definitely visit towns like Welch, WV and Hazard, KY.
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| Back to the question: Italians are fabulously kind, generous and hospitable people, as long as you aren't in a car. Then they become the most selfish, unreasonable and ignorant people you will ever meet anywhere. |
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| Like with anything, it depends on how you see people, how much you know of the culture, and how adaptable you are to local customs. In the words of John Steinbeck (Cannery Row) "Its inhabitants are, as the man once said, "whores, pimps, gamblers, and sons of bitches," by which he meant Everybody. Had the man looked through another peep-hole he might have said: "Saints and angels and martyrs and holy men," and he would have meant the same thing. |
Agreed. It's all a matter of perspective. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| They're liberals and, like conservatives, they are not to be believed. |
Best,
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lostdegaine
Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, Appalachia is a huge region and includes cities such as Asheville, NC, which is constantly listed among the top places to live in the US.
According to Wikipedia:
� Modern Maturity named it one of "The 50 Most Alive Places To Be," AmericanStyle magazine called it one of "America's Top 25 Arts Destinations," Self magazine labeled it the "Happiest City for Women," it is one of AARP Magazine's "Best Places to Reinvent Your Life," and was proclaimed the "New Freak Capital of the U.S." by Rolling Stone. Asheville has also been called "a New Age Mecca" by CBS News' Eye On America, and named the "most vegetarian-friendly" small city in America by PETA. In the 2008 book The Geography of Bliss, by Eric Weiner, Asheville was cited by the author to be one of the happiest places in the United States.� |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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And then, there's "Deliverance" (banjos playing in the background.)
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John |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: |
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There are really nice people in New Mexico. And there are really nice people in NC. The secret is: Stay away from the white people. They are REAL BAD.
Seriously the nicest people we met were at the Jemez Pueblo near Albuquerque and on the Gullah islands on the SC coast. |
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Blingcosa

Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Guangdong
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, white people - don't trust them. Ninja's are black - just for the record.
In my travels (sorry never been to Appalacia or New Mexico) my list of the friendliest people would be as follows:
1. Afar (Djibouti)
2. Maori (NZ)
3. Latin Americans
4. Polynesians
5. Chinese |
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Blingcosa

Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Guangdong
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| Special mention: Turks - hospitality is second only to the Afar |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Vanica,
"There are really nice people in New Mexico. And there are really nice people in NC. The secret is: Stay away from the white people. They are REAL BAD.
Seriously the nicest people we met were at the Jemez Pueblo near Albuquerque and on the Gullah islands on the SC coast."
Aw, you should have come up to Santa Fe. Some of us are white, but we're really, really nice.
Regards,
John
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| 3. Latin Americans |
I hope to live out the rest of my days in Central America. |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I was just kidding about the white people, but there is a grain of truth in there, somewhere. There is a problem with racism and sexism in the answer to the original question. If you go to Italy, but you are obviously of Eastern European, especially Roma or Sinti, descent, you might not experience the famous hospitality. If you are a white man in Bangkok, you might mistake need for desire. We were asked to leave a church parking lot in Eastern NC! So your experience of a culture may depend upon your appearance, and even if you are having a good time, your level of empathy may prevent you from enjoying a place, despite how nice everyone is to you. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Vanica,
"There are really nice people in New Mexico. And there are really nice people in NC. The secret is: Stay away from the white people. They are REAL BAD.
Seriously the nicest people we met were at the Jemez Pueblo near Albuquerque and on the Gullah islands on the SC coast."
Aw, you should have come up to Santa Fe. Some of us are white, but we're really, really nice.
Regards,
John
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John! You've been to the Gullah Islands??? Like Antartica for you, I must go there before I'm dust. Fortunately for me, it's much more accessable.
NCTBA |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| If you are a white man in Bangkok, you might mistake need for desire. We were asked to leave a church parking lot in Eastern NC! So your experience of a culture may depend upon your appearance, and even if you are having a good time, your level of empathy may prevent you from enjoying a place, despite how nice everyone is to you. |
Yes, it reminds me of how some South Koreans will be so helpful to white foreigners and then turn around and be so mean in Filipino immigrant workers. In my opinion a lot of South Koreans who are nice to white foreigners are only doing because they want white people to have a good image of Korea. They are not doing out of the kindness of their heart. |
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Dancing Monkey
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 79
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:54 am Post subject: |
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The Lowcountry of South Carolina = "Smiling Faces & Beautiful Places!"
For those not familiar with the area, there are a plethora of films set there - The Big Chill, The Prince of Tides and even parts of Forrest Gump, to name a few.
Hilton Head Island is the economic backbone of the region, but a bit overdeveloped now. I suggest Pawleys Island or Edisto Island, both near Charleston.
Have fun! |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Pawleys Island? Where the white people play in former slave quarters that have been changed into gift shops? I saw really tense, bigoted people there.
I meant Sandy Island, across the road, for Gullah. There is a religious group studying the language, so there could be opportunities for linguists, though I think the Biblical emphasis is strange. |
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