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Chancellor
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| spanglish wrote: |
Thanks blingcosa! Sounds intriguing; I'll check it out on wikipedia and do some research here on the board. My contract is up in December, so now I'm in research job application mode.
I'm getting a little discouraged about the career path teaching English seems to take (low wage ceiling, country hopping for years on end, not getting to live in your own country), so I'm thinking of getting off the ESL grid and just teaching on the side or something.
It'd be nice to fulfill my criteria in a Spanish speaking country... |
Skip Wikipedia and use a real source like whatever website those countries have or maybe the U. S. State Department sites for these countries.
Teaching ESL in your own country may certainly be possible but it likely requires having more education that is specifically ESL or other education-related. |
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spanglish
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| Absolutely - I'd be scared to try to pursue ESL in the US without a masters degree. |
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Teacher in Rome
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fat_chris: where you are sounds beautiful. How would it be if you didn't speak any Japanese? Not such a dumb question as I live in rural Italy, and if I didn't speak Italian / local "dialect", I'd feel pretty isolated.
I would suggest Italy to the OP, but salaries are low, it's difficult for non-EU to work here, and we also get pollution, though much, much less in the countryside and by the coast. On the other hand, a relatively stress-free life, if you factor in good food, generally kind people, and a decent climate. All of which can make up for less than stellar wages. In fact, people in my part of Italy are famed for their longevity. |
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spanglish
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Yeah teacher in rome - I was telling one of my CELTA course tutors that I wanted to go to a 'nice cushy' place to teach. She thought for a minute and said, 'Italy or Spain.' Unfortunately all those cool places sound impossible to get into for Americans (English teachers that is).
Lately I've been thinking about taking a 1 year break from Latin America to go to Asia and make some good money. Then come back here with the extra experience and savings under my belt. |
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JZer
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| Lately I've been thinking about taking a 1 year break from Latin America to go to Asia and make some good money. Then come back here with the extra experience and savings under my belt. |
I may be wrong but I doubt your Asian experience will be of much use in Latin America. You may save some money but that is about it. If you are not careful you might not even save money.
South Korea is about the only destination in which you will be able to save money for sure.
Japan, Taiwan, and China all have their own problems in regards to saving money. I may save $2000US a month this semester but it took me over a year to build up the contacts I need to make over $3000 a month USD. |
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spanglish
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Yep, I'm thinking about going to either South Korea or Taiwan. The idea would be to get past 2 years experience, do a DELTA and then get on with the British Council in Latin America. I've got a buddy who works with them and that sounds more or less like the route he took.
JZer - what are your qualifications/experience and where do you teach? |
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JZer
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Yep, I'm thinking about going to either South Korea or Taiwan. The idea would be to get past 2 years experience, do a DELTA and then get on with the British Council in Latin America. I've got a buddy who works with them and that sounds more or less like the route he took.
JZer - what are your qualifications/experience and where do you teach? |
Interesting. I am thinking of going to the US to become a certified teacher and then finding a job at an international school. |
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JZer
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Yep, I'm thinking about going to either South Korea or Taiwan. The idea would be to get past 2 years experience, do a DELTA and then get on with the British Council in Latin America. I've got a buddy who works with them and that sounds more or less like the route he took.
JZer - what are your qualifications/experience and where do you teach? |
Are you planning to teach adults and the British Council? In Taiwan most jobs are teaching children. Even teaching children pays more. |
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spanglish
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My preference is adults or teenagers, but apparently every B.C. teacher here in Bogota does some young learners teaching, so it's mandatory.
When I was going to school in Canada, some teenagers came from Taiwan on an English learning trip. They were loaded - apparently many of them had several thousand dollars in spending money for just a few weeks time.
But getting back on track, most of the private high schools in Bogota are located on the outskirts of the city in a relatively rural setting. I may settle for that type of setup. |
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jonniboy
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| My preference is adults or teenagers |
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| Yeah teacher in rome - I was telling one of my CELTA course tutors that I wanted to go to a 'nice cushy' place to teach. She thought for a minute and said, 'Italy or Spain.' |
Teaching in Italy/Spain = Teaching kiddies. Teaching kiddies definitely doesn't equal cushy. Earning just a bit more than 1100 euro a month (a typical Spanish/Italian salary) definitely doesn't rate highly on my cushiness scale either. What's your course tutor's dealer's number? |
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Stephen Jones
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| Teaching in Italy/Spain = Teaching kiddies. |
Not necessarily. |
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spanglish
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| lol to johnniboy - the 'cushy' part was partially tongue in cheek. I think my tutor was referring to the general lifestyle of the country and ease of living there. But of course she is English, so had the opportunity to teach in western Europe in the first place. |
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Chancellor
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Yep, I'm thinking about going to either South Korea or Taiwan. The idea would be to get past 2 years experience, do a DELTA and then get on with the British Council in Latin America. I've got a buddy who works with them and that sounds more or less like the route he took.
JZer - what are your qualifications/experience and where do you teach? |
Interesting. I am thinking of going to the US to become a certified teacher and then finding a job at an international school. |
I'm definitely considering it (though I'm already in the US). |
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