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kungfupanda
Joined: 04 Aug 2009 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: I studied in Japan. Does that help or hurt my chance? |
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I studied abroad in Japan in my junior year of college. I speak Japanese pretty well but recently I've been more interested in teaching in China. I just feel that there is more opportunity there for me in the long run.
Now my question is, will Chinese schools see my time spent abroad as a positive thing? Perhaps they see that I am able to adapt to a foreign culture. Or will they see it as a negative thing? I know that a lot of Chinese are anti-Japan so that is where most of my concern stems from.
Or am I just putting too much thought into my resume? Do they really just care about me being white and having a BA degree? |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 1402
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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You pretty much hit the nail on the head with that last sentence. |
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mondrian

Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 658 Location: "was that beautiful coastal city in the NE of China"
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think that most Chinese bother about this. In Dalian there is quite a large Japanese business presence and one Japanese guy even won a business award from the mayor a few years back.
IF you are white, can stand up for an hour or so in front of a class while hung-over, speak "the English" and look happy then China is for you!
Now in Korea, that most Xenophobic of nations, a hint of your Japanese expertise would be frowned upon (so omit it from your cv!) |
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alter ego

Joined: 24 Mar 2009 Posts: 209
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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mondrian wrote: |
IF you are white, can stand up for an hour or so in front of a class while hung-over, speak "the English" and look happy then China is for you! |
When I used to teach hung-over it wasn't always easy to look happy, much less be happy. Teaching takes energy, and a sincere interest to connect and communicate with others. Who wants to do this with a hangover?
I say put as much thought into your resume as you want and be proud of yourself and your accomplishments in every interview you do. The most important thing is for you see it as a positive thing, which it is. Who knows what the Chinese job interviewer sitting across from you is thinking, and who cares?
Go for the jobs you want, be yourself, and remember that some of the best teaching jobs in China require applicants to do more than just stand in front of a class and smile. Having the skills, training, experience, and confidence to give a dynamic and well-planned demo to a class of choosy business managers takes a little more professional effort than that. |
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bando
Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry about it mate, I majored in Japanese and ended up teaching in Guangzhou. If you're at an international school then it will be a bonus otherwise being white and a graduate is enough. |
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The Ever-changing Cleric

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:20 am Post subject: Re: I studied in Japan. Does that help or hurt my chance? |
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kungfupanda wrote: |
I studied abroad in Japan in my junior year of college. I speak Japanese pretty well but recently I've been more interested in teaching in China. I just feel that there is more opportunity there for me in the long run.
Now my question is, will Chinese schools see my time spent abroad as a positive thing? Perhaps they see that I am able to adapt to a foreign culture. Or will they see it as a negative thing? I know that a lot of Chinese are anti-Japan so that is where most of my concern stems from.
Or am I just putting too much thought into my resume? Do they really just care about me being white and having a BA degree? |
a lot of chinese students have japanese classes as one of their options/electives. at least they do where i am.
even though you can find some hatred/dislike towards the japanese people/government here in china, i think its a stretch to think that the same anger/hate/dislike would be directed to any westerner who studied japanese or studied in japan. the chinese don't hate the japanese that much to go after people with peripheral connections to japan. |
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nhat
Joined: 30 May 2009 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
Probably the biggest benefit for you would be the ability to pick up on Chinese reading and writing (assuming that you've studied Kanji).
As far as getting a job goes, it's probably a non-issue. If you have experience teaching ESL, or even private tutoring, then that would be something to bring up.
And as a side note, the most commonly known Japanese word among my students is "bakayarou". |
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sharpe88
Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 226
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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It most likely neither hurts nor helps that much.. |
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IT2006
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 91 Location: Wichita, KS, and westward.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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In every one of the universities where I taught, there were Japanese teachers teaching Japanese--- even English!
One Japanese teacher was very popular because his Chinese was excellent (or so my students said). His English wasn't so hot, but then, my Chinese isn't too good either.
Re: Your CV
I agree that you should put as much into your resume as you can (all that is true, of course).
I include my business background as well as my list of publications and postgraduate work as well.
While the cynical sentiment that being white and being able to display a modicum of education appears to be a primary consideration in China, anything above and beyond that is greatly appreciated. FAOs are looking for kudos, and so are the deans of the foreign languages departments. In some schools, the string of foreign losers is so long that the credibility factor of foreign teachers can be low to nonexistent.
In the last Chinese city where I lived, there was an African American working at one of the major universities that was quite popular among students and administration alike. The guy was sharp as a tack and funny as all get-out. This, I think, disproves that NOT being white is necessarily a handicap to employment in China.
Have you done something that you're proud of? Mention it!
Are you certified in CardioPulmonary Resuscitation? Mention it! (Hey, it won't hurt. It shows that you care about others).
Master Chess player? Mention it!
Are you particularly knowledgeable in anything Chinese? Mention it in caps!
You never know what will draw the attention of the person who is in charge of hiring.
Others may argue against this and cite examples to prove me wrong, I am sure. I believe that that the more personal depth you can convey to a prospective employer, the better your chances will be of finding an appreciative employer.
Results may vary. Void where prohibited. The large print giveth and the small print taketh away. Keep away from small children, etc., etc.. |
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The Ever-changing Cleric

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:33 am Post subject: |
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very good advice above. |
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Sonnibarger
Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 320 Location: Wuhan
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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very true.... last year at my school... a high school dropout was hired over a uni grad based on the fact he was a good dancer... i *beep* u not... anyway after being late the first day, missing the second, and fighting with his coteacher he was fired... |
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