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honeyandsweetie



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Wondering where to start Reply with quote

Hey guys Iam new here and I am wondering where to start. My husband is currently employed in KSA and Iam hoping to join him sometime next august. I have no previous teaching experience but I do have a BA degree, I know that alot of schools ask for 2+ years of experience and a TESOL/TESL certificate. I am wondering if I can do the TESOL certificate online, the only thing is there are so many TESOL/TESL certificate websites and iam not sure which one to use. Also what are the odds that I can land a job when I have no previous teaching experience and find a school thats close to where my husband lives?
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Online courses don't meet the industry standard. Search for 'online TEFL' and you'll find a range of threads about it. That's all the help i can give i'm afraid.
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honeyandsweetie



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Hmm Reply with quote

I have read a few posts where they have mentioned the industry standard...What exactly is it? Iam guessing that it will be extremely difficult to find a job with no experience. I did consider teaching in Florida but currently there is a hiring freeze in my county and they have layed off a few teachers. So I can't teach here to gain experience. So are the online teaching certificates worth the money?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Industry standard' is 100+ hours onsite including at least 6 hours of supervised teaching practice with actual students (not peer trainees - a dodge some of the online courses offer). CELTA is the name brand, but there are a few generics that meet the standard too...

Consider taking the course in the country where you want to start.
There are lots of good reasons.... though I have to admit I'm not sure if there is such a thing in KSA. I have friends who've taught in the Kingdom (and I currently teach Saudi students here in the Netherlands) and most KSA jobs seem to require a relevant MA plus experience. With no experience and an online cert, I don't think you'll get an actual job, though you might find some kinds of private teaching....

In gereral, though, for what little it's worth in your case....

Training in-country offers you a great chance to get your feet wet in the country/culture while you still have a support system � they usually arrange for your housing during the course, airport pickup, and local orientation. Your practice teaching students will really be representative of those you�ll be working with when you start. You can be sure that your certification will be recognized by local employers, and a training centre can give you invaluable contacts and advice regarding reputable local employers.
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honeyandsweetie



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iam just wondering if I were to do the in country CELTA course will it be sufficent enough for employers? I really need to find something in Saudi arabia because if I go on a family visa I can't work.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can find one....I just don't know if CELTA is offered in Saudi. And, remember, most Saudi jobs require far more serious qualifications than just an entry-level cert.

You might move your inquiry to the Saudi forum - you'll find it below. There are quite a few 'old hands' who post regularly there.

luck!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOnestly, if I were you, I'd enjoy the time off, just teach some privates. With competition being what it is in the ME, you'll be hard pressed to find a job with no experience.
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honeyandsweetie



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CELTA is offered in Saudia arabia through the British Council. I am wondering if this would be enough to land a job.
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Ariadne



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiral78 gave some good advice. Go to the Saudi forum and there will be lots more people with on the ground experience and advice for you.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Wondering where to start Reply with quote

honeyandsweetie wrote:
Hey guys Iam new here and I am wondering where to start. My husband is currently employed in KSA and Iam hoping to join him sometime next august. I have no previous teaching experience but I do have a BA degree, I know that alot of schools ask for 2+ years of experience and a TESOL/TESL certificate. I am wondering if I can do the TESOL certificate online, the only thing is there are so many TESOL/TESL certificate websites and iam not sure which one to use. Also what are the odds that I can land a job when I have no previous teaching experience and find a school thats close to where my husband lives?
Do an on-site course if you can but, if not, then if you do choose to do an online course, make sure it offers at least six hours of supervised teaching practice on-site with real ESL/EFL students (not fellow teacher trainees like i-to-i does). Some on-site course providers - including at least one Trinity course - offers an equivalent online variant (though let's be clear here: the online course is not, itself, a Trinity course) with on-site supervised teaching practice with real ESL/EFL students. The most important thing is the on-site supervised teaching practice; so, that's what you should be looking for. One option, if you don't mind spending a couple of weeks in Toronto to do the on-site teaching practice, is the course provided by Coventry House International (