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disregardedknowledge
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 Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: Booz Allen |
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| Can anyone give me the latest info on Booz Allen. What can one expect to get in salary and benefits? Is housing provided or do you have to find your own housing? If so, how much is the housing allowance? ANY info would be greatly appreciated. Where in KSA are the teaching positions, what are the students like, how many contact hours, pay, etc, etc. Thank you for any feedback. Feel free to PM. |
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flyingcarpet
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n&n
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:38 am Post subject: Jubail |
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Booz Allen Hamilton is teaching the Saudi Navy in Jubail. I heard they can't even get nurses to come and visit them on their compound but I can't say I have first hand experience. Word has it that there's not much going on on their compound or in Jubail. This did go down a few months ago though:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=72109&highlight=attack |
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Sadebugo
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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I would say Booz-Allen is one of the more reputable employers in the Kingdom.
Sadebugo
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Middle East Beast
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Why? |
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n&n
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| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: Pay |
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Sadebugo
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You're working directly for the US entity and not for a Saudi sub-contractor posing as the American company. Consequently, you are protected and treated very professionally for the most part.
Sadebugo
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:28 am Post subject: |
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You're working directly for the US entity and not for a Saudi sub-contractor posing as the American company. Consequently, you are protected and treated very professionally for the most part.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
I worked for Booz-Allen in 1995-1996. First, we had to attend a one-week orientation session at their headquarters in Virginia. It was a complete waste of time for people in ESL--a lot of touchee-feelee group action, lets do some problem-solving projects, yada, yada, yada.
Then nine months into the job they lost the funding for their contract. We were promptly laid off. I had just brought my wife over three months before this happened. I had to pay for her trip there and her unexpected, premature trip back. We thought we were going to build a life there, as it was a "permanent hire," not a standard one- or two-year contract. It was a nightmare. |
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Sadebugo
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Middle East Beast wrote: |
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You're working directly for the US entity and not for a Saudi sub-contractor posing as the American company. Consequently, you are protected and treated very professionally for the most part.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
I worked for Booz-Allen in 1995-1996. First, we had to attend a one-week orientation session at their headquarters in Virginia. It was a complete waste of time for people in ESL--a lot of touchee-feelee group action, lets do some problem-solving projects, yada, yada, yada.
Then nine months into the job they lost the funding for their contract. We were promptly laid off. I had just brought my wife over three months before this happened. I had to pay for her trip there and her unexpected, premature trip back. We thought we were going to build a life there, as it was a "permanent hire," not a standard one- or two-year contract. It was a nightmare. |
I heard of that event a few years later when I worked for them. The story I heard though was that the Saudis were late in payment and the company pulled out as a result. It had a negative effect for you but I would lay the blame at the Saudis' feet. Their business practices make it difficult for most companies to function properly over there.
Sadebugo
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Well, don't know what to say, except that I was THERE, and we were told by Booz-Allen that they lost the funding. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
| Middle East Beast wrote: |
| Sadebugo wrote: |
| Middle East Beast wrote: |
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You're working directly for the US entity and not for a Saudi sub-contractor posing as the American company. Consequently, you are protected and treated very professionally for the most part.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
I worked for Booz-Allen in 1995-1996. First, we had to attend a one-week orientation session at their headquarters in Virginia. It was a complete waste of time for people in ESL--a lot of touchee-feelee group action, lets do some problem-solving projects, yada, yada, yada.
Then nine months into the job they lost the funding for their contract. We were promptly laid off. I had just brought my wife over three months before this happened. I had to pay for her trip there and her unexpected, premature trip back. We thought we were going to build a life there, as it was a "permanent hire," not a standard one- or two-year contract. It was a nightmare. |
I heard of that event a few years later when I worked for them. The story I heard though was that the Saudis were late in payment and the company pulled out as a result. It had a negative effect for you but I would lay the blame at the Saudis' feet. Their business practices make it difficult for most companies to function properly over there.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
On one hand, I've gotta agree with Sadebugo on BAH being one of the better gigs in saudi, but on the other hand call attention to the point that if you're a U.S. employee, as I believe you are under BAH, then BAH should serve as a firewall between the incompetence of saudi bureaucracy and an employee's welfare.
Now, here I was an al salam employee working the AWACS program in riyadh subcontracting to Boeing and they stood firm to the saudis when it came to hem-hawing on contract negotiations. I remember that one contract arrived for the Defense Minister's signature the morning of a proposed shutdown by Boeing as talks (and saudi procrastination) had gone on that long. But Boeing was always there from their surrogate's employees.
The most extraordinary thing that I witnessed whilst in their employ was when the newly-hired saudi "Program Manager" (we all KNEW that something stinky was about to happen!) ran off with the payroll. Boeing had the cash in our banking accounts within 24 hours. In the end they wound up putting us into veritable mansions with 8 bathrooms each. Many of these turn-key residences had their own private pools in the back yard. 6000/m squared those places were...even for those on single status. Their treatment for us became insane! Unfortunately, that was one of the compounds that was bombed in May, 2003.
All of that went away when Lockheed, the bottom-feeder of Saudi military contractors took over, but Paul in Saudi can tell you more about that experience and how it let it's subcontractors (most noteably DIFA) prey on their American employees!
Finally, I'd like to give RAYMES (Raytheon Middle East) a great big hand for their treatment of me and my family. When SALTS would not step up to the plate for their employees in reaction to the forced repatriation of families due to the afore-mentioned bombings, it was Raytheon who did the correct corporate thing and picked up SALTS' shortcomings (SALTS eventually lost the contract) and treated us extremely well. Both Boeing and Raytheon are the heroes of my saudi experience. Without them, life would have been hell.
I'm sorry for MEB'S experience. Hooking up with a classy employer certainly is key...
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