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trapezius
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Deat John,
Yes, good and pertinent question. Only his potential employer can answer that for him!
Regards,
[its a] trap  |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Dear trap,
"its a] trap"
Were he a teacher, I'd say it might well be. However, considering his profession, I think the odds may be against that.
Teachers are probably more prone to encountering dodgy recruiters and unscrupulous employers than are "consultant (chemical engineer) in the petrochemical business."
Yup, I'm a Mac man - which is why my keyboard is unbloodied and I am unbowed. My condolences to your sister.
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John |
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TurkOwl
Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Dear TurkOwl,
A healthy amount of skepticism will not be amiss in Saudi. The problem is that these relatively new visas seem to be becoming much more popular these days - one reason, perhaps, being that it likely takes less time to "process" them through the system (although, as they become more prevalent, that may also change.)
So, as usual, no "blanket statement" can, I think, be made about the "reliability" or "trustworthiness" of employers/recruiters who are using them.
As I mentioned, I'd be a little concerned about going with such a visa, but
it's really a crap-shoot. Maybe the employer/recruiter will be a decent one, maybe not.
Unless or until someone on the board has had previous experience with that specific employer/recruiter, how can we know?
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John |
Dear John,
Thanks for your valuable opinions... Your experience really helps... Probably my potential employer is very decent one because it's very big company, nevertheless arabic people work there so I'm not sure...
Also what they tell is "MOF does not issue business visas anymore" that's why they are persistent on "temporary work visa".
Maybe I try to find some reasons to give up...
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Deat John,
Yes, good and pertinent question. Only his potential employer can answer that for him!
Regards,
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Dear Trap,
I don't think their answer for my question which I've already asked will not eradicate my doubts...Experiences of other expats help newbies...
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Dear TurkOwl,
"nevertheless arabic people work there so I'm not sure... "
Umm, you may find this hard to believe, but there are very, very many trustworthy, decent, and helpful Arabs.
Hope your maybe soon-to-be colleagues are in that category.
Personally, given your profession, I'd say it's most likely not "a trap."
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John  |
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TurkOwl
Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dear TurkOwl,
"nevertheless arabic people work there so I'm not sure... "
Umm, you may find this hard to believe, but there are very, very many trustworthy, decent, and helpful Arabs.
Hope your maybe soon-to-be colleagues are in that category.
Personally, given your profession, I'd say it's most likely not "a trap."
Regards,
John |
My colleagues working in same business tell the same...
If I only have an idea about Kingdom just with news or internet, I'd never think to be there.
Interestingly all collegues in Kingdom, are very happy to be there. I know some people working for 18-19 years and they do not criticise.
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Dear TurkOwl,
That's good to hear. I've always found it best to consider strangers of any nationality) to be decent people - until I have reason to believe otherwise.
I'm not credulous or gullible, so not only are the odds always heavily in my favor, but I think I can spot a phony from quite a distance.
Trust your instincts - but verify (insofar as you can) your impressions.
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John |
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TurkOwl
Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Dear John,
I will take into consideration your advise...
You know, we engineers verify everything in details...
Sometimes I remember what an older friend of mine says,
"life is not complicated"...
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Dear TurkOwl,
Life, I've found, is simple - it's just not always easy.
And, as I get older (and older), I find that I'm getting simpler, too.
But then, many have always considered me to be simple.
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John |
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Grendal
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Posts: 861
Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Sayin TurkOwl,
Siz Turkmusunuz? Takma isminden ve bazi Ingilizce hatalardan anladim. Cunku Turkce dusunip Ingilizce yaziyorsunuz. Bende birazdan Saudiye gidiyorum ve ayni zamanda mastirimi yapiyorum. Sizinle temasa gecmekek istiyoruz.
Hoscakalin
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Sayın Grendal
Ne t�rk değilse o? Ya bir baykuş nedir?
Saygılar,
John |
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The Lathe of Heaven
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 162
Location: drifting from dream to dream from future to future
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Dear John,
You have Turkish fonts?
Cool.
TLOH |
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desultude
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
Posts: 614
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| The Lathe of Heaven wrote: |
Dear John,
You have Turkish fonts?
Cool.
TLOH |
He's a Mac man. And apparently one who knows a bit of Turkish. |
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TurkOwl
Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Grendal wrote: |
Sayin TurkOwl,
Siz Turkmusunuz? Takma isminden ve bazi Ingilizce hatalardan anladim. Cunku Turkce dusunip Ingilizce yaziyorsunuz. Bende birazdan Saudiye gidiyorum ve ayni zamanda mastirimi yapiyorum. Sizinle temasa gecmekek istiyoruz.
Hoscakalin
Grendal |
Evet, ben T�rk�m...
Arabistan'da nereye ve niye gidiyorsunuz?
Temasa ge�ebiliriz �ok resmi oldu bu... Hitap şeklinizden anlıyorum ki siz T�rk değilsiniz...
Saygılarımla |
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TurkOwl
Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
Sayın Grendal
Ne t�rk değilse o? Ya bir baykuş nedir?
Saygılar,
John |
Dear John,
I hardly understood what you mean...Laughed too much...Probably you translated with a program
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 3500
Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Yeah, John, I concur! Why did you write "...the proudest boast is 'I am a jelly doughnut!'" in Turkish? 
NCTBA |
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