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alter ego
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The OP is fair game because:
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Based on the OP's replies it sounds like he's prepared for a good bashing or two here. As a teacher though, when critiquing the creative efforts of others I find it much more enjoyable to be nice rather than mean, positive rather than negative, and supportive rather than derogative. 
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Dan The Chainsawman
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Location: Yinchuan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ehh.. I dunno.. I've never sat down and really thought about writing my own text book.
Off the top of my head..
Are these workbook pages or an actual lesson for use in class? Because I fail to see where the student is asked to use the material creatively. Seems to me like the material is more geared towards reviewing what they've learned. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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My bad...you do have speaking excercises in the lesson. I'd move a speaking excercise to the beginning of the chapter for chapter 2 as a review. At least that's my preference and I always lead off my classes with a speaking excercise of some sort that reviews previous lessons.
Not a huge fan of fill in the blank excercises either. Most I do is have groups of kids make scrambled sentences and then change between groups. Get twice the bang for my their RMB that way. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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No offense to anyone, but this is exactly the kind of thing that should be "bashed"
He asked for an evaluation of his work. We're not talking about the morons who attack posts on the forum, spelling, etc. We're talking about something he intends to publish/use and so it should be as near-perfect as possible. I also got the impression, as others did, that the author was not a native English speaker.
This kind of work should be bashed, so as to make it as proper as possible. |
Well, if you think evaluation means bashing, then you shouldn't work as a teacher... or do anything that requires a brain. |
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svrart
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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Location: Lanzhou, Gansu, China
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Hello all,
I run my own English school, so weekends are terribly busy for us. However I have noted down all the comments and will be making the changes this national holiday.
Special thanks to those who have given constructive criticisms. Thanks also to those who have bashed the book. In reality, it was the bashing that brought forth much support and useful comments.
Later,
Sridhar |
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nobleignoramus
Joined: 17 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: Re: An Effort to Meet Real Student Needs |
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"Personally, I consider the words 'book' and 'oral English' irreconcilable with each other." -- Noble Ignoramus
It's called "learner support," and going without it is a lot like high-wire walking without a net, aerobatic flying without a parachute, high-rise construction without a safety line... It would seem to have more to do with machismo on the part of the FT, and the relative lack of respect they command at many Chinese schools, than any inherent pedagogical benefits. But what is the point, when real learners struggling through a class they can just barely understand, often as not with an inexperienced FT, can use all the support they can get?
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'Learner support'? A book? Well, that's one way of looking at it, to be sure, but it's not necessarily the best one. It may very well be the nanny's point of view, you know the teacher that's afraid of venturing into uncharted linguistic waters.
But just as you picked up your first language without the 'support' of any book an L2 student should, and can, develop communications skills in that language without always using text materials. A language teacher's noblest objective should be to make their students independent of such 'supports'.
This is probably more true of Chinese students since virtually all their English language acquisition is book-based, i.e. relies on eye contact with written language. A learner of a foreign language who cannot communicate in that language without reading it simply cannot engage in oral dialogues. The student's mind should operate - or learn to operate - without the 'support' of letters. Our students spend in fact much too much time 'reading' English - usually in worthless textbooks.
I am convinced, though, that even so-called'English-speaking' classes need some literature. But not those books that are commonly tossed at our students. |
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theincredibleegg
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| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| svrart wrote: |
Hello all,
I run my own English school, so weekends are terribly busy for us. However I have noted down all the comments and will be making the changes this national holiday.
Special thanks to those who have given constructive criticisms. Thanks also to those who have bashed the book. In reality, it was the bashing that brought forth much support and useful comments.
Later,
Sridhar |
really? |
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tatsuo1
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:42 am Post subject: re: "bashing" |
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| svrart wrote: |
Hello all,
I run my own English school, so weekends are terribly busy for us. However I have noted down all the comments and will be making the changes this national holiday.
Special thanks to those who have given constructive criticisms. Thanks also to those who have bashed the book. In reality, it was the bashing that brought forth much support and useful comments.
Later,
Sridhar |
Not to mention free editing services, right? |
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