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wildnfree
Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 134
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: When to leave ESL and settle down.. |
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I posted this in another thread but realized it should probably be here:
Waring:This is a long and philosophical post...
So on an extended holiday from my ESL, and having recently celebrated my 30th birthday, I have come to a dilema - leave the ESL world and establish a career in my home country, or continue with the esl buzz.
I must admit that ESL teaching doesnt arouse passion in me, never has - but that buzz I get from working and living in a foreign country does. I have been in ESL teaching for over 6 years now (worked mainly in Hong Kong and Spain, have lived in Cuba) but am starting to question my choices. For example, we dont get superannuation, our industry is low-paid with often little job security. That's great in your 20s, but later on, is that instability worth it?
With my recent birthday, Ive started thing about the need to buy a house and secure myself financially to not always be paying rent in crappy places or living with my folks (who welcome me, but im not 15 anymore!) . That would mean settling down and changing careers (to have a stable teaching job in Australia, I would need a graduate diploma in education to enter a high school, unlike overseas - and the cost and time doesnt inspire me . I m thinking of pursuing options in other areas that interest me, such as environmental protection - but its a long haul as well changing one's career. Employers want to know why and might not understand.
So there is my dilema . I would be interested to know why people teach overseas if not for the love of teaching, and how they changed/adapted to life in their own country again, or those who decided to give it up.
Forgive my spelling, I havent wrote/spoke English like this since 2007 |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Wow! Yer deep! Speaking of philosophy...what's the sound of one poster snoring?
NCTBA
P.s.- Happy Birthday |
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mozzar
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 339 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking about how hard it must be to make a career out of ESL. Once you have your masters, you've got a better paid job but surely that's not for the full year? Do you have to work your way up an organisation, become less of a teacher and more of a manager? Or is it possible to still keep teaching ESL for life? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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we dont get superannuation, |
Why not? Stay long enough and you will. Perhaps even from your home country, too.
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our industry is low-paid with often little job security. That's great in your 20s, but later on, is that instability worth it? |
That's why people should plan ahead more than 5 years, if possible, or at least consider how serious they are in teaching vs. mere traveling to teach. If they find themselves in TEFL for the long run, get certified and a higher degree to increase the odds of job security.
You want to change your career back to something else, something that requires far more training/education/experience than entry level EFL teaching? Realize up front the training/education/experience needed, and plan for it. If you were back home right now, you wouldn't be in that field, so what would you do? You'd probably find some stopgap source of income and get the training/education/experience on the side. No difference if you consider returning from an EFL experience. The longer you stay away, the harder it may be, though.
And, to answer your last question (which is actually 2 questions):
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I would be interested to know why people teach overseas if not for the love of teaching, |
This is probably a main reason. Others would be that they may have found themselves away from home too long to return, they may have gotten married with kids and discover their spouse can't/won't leave, or they may just like breezing by on a TEFL job and enjoy the life overseas.
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and how they changed/adapted to life in their own country again, or those who decided to give it up. |
If people in the first half of your question are working long term, they may not return. If people return from any TEFL experience, they may have any number of reasons:
continue teaching but at home,
change jobs/careers perhaps to something that the teaching or life overseas can prove beneficial in,
return to the career they had.
How people change or adapt to their return. Toughie for me, since I have not returned. Reverse culture shock is a huge problem for some, and in that case, many will leave their homeland again.[/quote] |
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marg252
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 55
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
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How people change or adapt to their return. Toughie for me, since I have not returned. Reverse culture shock is a huge problem for some, and in that case, many will leave their homeland again. |
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(((raises hand)))
That's me. I've been back in the US for 5 months after being in Asia for 2 years and I'm planning on leaving again right after the holidays. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we're still in a recession, so in terms of just applying for jobs, perhaps you're better sticking with Tefl. Alternatively, if you're willing to take a relevant degree or training course, with a view of applying for something in a few years time, why not take a career choice test. My free one is www.careersteer.org (Do note: before I went abroad, I was a careers adviser and occupational psychologist, and the test does have a serious reputation.) |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I must admit that ESL teaching doesnt arouse passion in me, never has - but that buzz I get from working and living in a foreign country does. |
Well, then, after doing ESL for 6 years, you have probably gotten used to what you like and don't like. My recommendation is to decide what else you want to do in life for a career, plan for it, and do it.
People do "settle down" (as the subject line says) as ESL teachers or other types of workers abroad. The subject line is somewhat misleading, making the reader think that nobody settles down abroad as a teacher. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Glenski. After living in my third country, this time for a 'short' 12 years, I feel fairly settled down. That and I picked up a 'wife' and part of a house, so I guess ESL and settling down are not mutually exclusive.  |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I suggest changing jobs. I'm tutoring and in March will start at a kindergarten. I'm hoping a different enviroment will challenge me and get rid of the monotomy. |
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