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		| Never Ceased To Be Amazed 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Linda467 wrote: |  
	  | Saludos cordiales estimado se�or
 
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 Ahhh...my text translator says that I should be grateful for this exchange:
 
 In my best Spanish, may I ask you: "Donde es banyos?" (Sorry, I can't turn the question mark upside down at the beginning of the question an' I can't do the little tilda mark above the "n", but really...I gotta go!)
   
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		| desultude 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Linda467 wrote: |  
	  | Desultude, 
 For the sake of having it straight :
 
 No vale la pena (it is not worth it) - Valle (valley)
 
 Cordiales saludos y Buenas noches
 
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 Lo siento!
 
 My Spanish is spoken only- so my spelling sucks!
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		| ThaneKerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Mia Xanthi wrote: |  
	  | One of the things that no one here has mentioned (recently) is that working 25-30 hours in KSA is quite different from working the same number of hours in Korea.  Classes in Korea are commonly of the "English conversation" type - entertain 'em for 50 minutes and you've earned your pay.  In KSA, there is no need for "conversation" class because these guys can talk your ear off.  Classes in KSA tend to focus on building academic skills such as reading and writing, and it takes a great deal of preparation and hard work.  That's probably why no one would advise you to take a class teaching 25-30 hours in KSA.  I know that I wouldn't consider 20+ hours there even if I were starving.  That much work in that kind of atmosphere, plus the heat, is just a recipe for disaster. |  
 Nicely put. It does sound a bit like comparing apples to hex bolts, teaching in Korea vs. teaching in the Kingdom. It's good to hear there is a work ethic in Saudi and they can produce. Korea got annoying really fast. If the won hadn't been so powerful while I was in SK, I would have stayed maybe a year instead of the two years I did endure there. I do this for mainly money now, understand.
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ...um... we don't want to overstate 'work ethic' here... from either students or faculty...   
 Again it depends very much on where you work.
 
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		| ThaneKerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Okay. Don't expect too much from the students or the native faculty. Got it. 
 Every little bit helps.
 
 Thank ya. Thank ya. Thank ya vur-ee muhch.
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:18 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| By "native," you meant "native speaker"?  right?   
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		| Never Ceased To Be Amazed 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Um..."natives" are refered to as "nationals"... 
 As in, "The rules apply to everyone except nationals."
 
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		| Mia Xanthi 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, it's not that the students have a 'work ethic".  It's rather that you will be expected to produce the impossible.  Your workplace will expect you to somehow get full, five-paragraph essays from students whose only writing experience consists of copying sentences verbatim from a blackboard.  You will be expected to produce students who can read and understand academic texts in English....when they have never read anything in Arabic except the Holy Quran (and that was more memorization than reading).  It is indeed a difficult job. |  | 
	
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		| Grendal 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Oh ye of little faith in SLA.  Hath not thine ears heard nor thine eyes seen? The reaper plundereth the souls of the uncircumsized. Thine understanding and thine comprehension shall be as fish scales lifted from thine eyes and the truth shall be revealed. 
 Be patient with the little ones of the desert, they will exceedingly prosper and rejoice in their wealth.  After the passing of days and months will ye be rewarded in like with treasures abounding.
 
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		| ThaneKerner 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Now you're scaring me, Grendal. Circumcision is something Jewish (and some Christian) people do. I'll leave it up to your imagination, but know that I hope I wouldn't need to 'add' something if I went to the mighty Kingdom, such as a prosthetic. But if I didn't have an iqama I wouldn't need it anyway. Muuuhhhhaaaaahhhaaaaa. 
 You crazy cat, you.
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | ThaneKerner wrote: |  
	  | Now you're scaring me, Grendal. Circumcision is something Jewish (and some Christian) people do. |  And all Muslim men and many of the women...
 
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		| johnslat 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| We are all - well, Christians, Jews and Muslims, anyway - "People of the Book." |  | 
	
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		| Linda467 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I had the priviledge to be born in a city where christians, jews and muslims lived and worked in peace for centuries. 
 By the way, the whole town was honored as Human Patrimony and guess, how many of you know which one is it?
 
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ...in Spain? 
 But, actually there are likely many that could fit that description in North Africa and the Levant.
 
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		| Linda467 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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 It refers to just one city and there is another one in Ohio, �Mericans, although that one was never the capital of the so called Empire !
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