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philipjames
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 Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:56 am Post subject: If I visit Israel can I be banned from the UAE? |
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I'm thinking of visiting Israel, but I would like to teach in the Middle East at some point. Will visiting Israel get me banned from working in the United Arab Emirates? (I know that some Arab governments frown on people who visit Israel.)
Thanks in advance. |
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veiledsentiments
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Make sure that they don't stamp your passport... or if they do, plan to get a new one. If you are working in this part of the world there are many countries that you will want to visit. Don't add hassles to your life...
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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| Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:21 am Post subject: Re: If I visit Israel can I be banned from the UAE? |
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| philipjames wrote: |
(I know that some Arab governments frown on people who visit Israel.)
Thanks in advance. |
Only two, officially, do not, with the possibility of adding Qatar if Israel stops playing it's silly brinkmanship!
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Afra
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| The Israeli border officials used to stamp a piece of paper if asked, rather than the passport. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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Afra: I get the stamping a piece of paper and putting it in your passport to be removed later. But, all that slight of hand would be for naught if, say, the Allenby Bridge passport control on the Jordanian side doesn't stamp your passport as you cross over or come back from the forbidden land. Do you or anyone know if they stamp or don't stamp as you cross? Because, it really doesn't matter if you have an Israeli stamp or not. There's only one destination.origination point crossing that bridge.
As Joey Tribiani would say, "...it's a moo point. Like a cow's opinion: it doesn't matter."
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007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Afra wrote: |
| The Israeli border officials used to stamp a piece of paper if asked, rather than the passport. |
Is this valid on Saturday?
I have heard that some people use Allenby/King Hussein bridge to avoid the Holly Saturday restriction in other borders posts, and/or avoid Israeli stamps in their passports! |
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uaeobserver
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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As I recall, the UAE very quietly removed the practice of denying entry to visitors who had such stamps in their passport. They did so about 2 years ago.
I'd imagine the new NYU guy has some stamps from the "occupied territory."
I'd imagine more than one UAE national has ventured over the bridge from Jordan.
Just a couple of years ago, one of the UAE's billionaire businessmen was in the area (very publicly), offering to buy up homes in one of the contested areas.
I'd also note that about 6 months ago, the UAE hosted the head of the US Anti-Defamation league (check WAM for an announcement). |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| uaeobserver wrote: |
| As I recall, the UAE very quietly removed the practice of denying entry to visitors who had such stamps in their passport. They did so about 2 years ago. |
Maybe not. Check the warning about a third of the way down this page from the HCT web site:
http://fjw.hct.ac.ae/fujairah/new_staff.html |
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helenl
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Would the fact that some of the people you mention in your post being UAE nationals have some "influence" on whether or not they were allowed entry into the UAE again (even if their passports were stamped by the Israelis). I imagine a UAE billionaire has plenty of wasta to regain entry to his native land. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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The thing is that you(we) are in one of those areas where it is unpredictable. The rules may say one thing, but how or if they are enforced is another. What is enforced today isn't tomorrow, but is the day after.
And, of course, UAE nationals are exempt from exclusion under this. This type of rule is for visitors/expats, not locals. Wasta doesn't have anything to do with this one...
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uaeobserver
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure about which point you were referring to, but this one struck me as... um... interesting:
However if travelling to the Occupied Territories proof of entry to Israel must be shown in passports.
So they want to make sure that they punish those who want to visit Palestine (or Bethlehem) by mucking up their passport. 
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NadiaK
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Middle East Beast wrote: |
| uaeobserver wrote: |
| As I recall, the UAE very quietly removed the practice of denying entry to visitors who had such stamps in their passport. They did so about 2 years ago. |
Maybe not. Check the warning about a third of the way down this page from the HCT web site:
http://fjw.hct.ac.ae/fujairah/new_staff.html |
That page is 4 years old. I too remember reading (more recently than that) that officially the UAE did *not* deny entry to anyone holding a passport stamped in Israel.
However, many UAE policies change overnight...and many vary according to who's sitting behind the desk. Best to err on the side of caution and follow the initial advice on this thread - get entry stamp on piece of paper, or plan on getting a new passport. That way you know you won't have any hassle in the future. |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| NadiaK wrote: |
| Middle East Beast wrote: |
| uaeobserver wrote: |
| As I recall, the UAE very quietly removed the practice of denying entry to visitors who had such stamps in their passport. They did so about 2 years ago. |
Maybe not. Check the warning about a third of the way down this page from the HCT web site:
http://fjw.hct.ac.ae/fujairah/new_staff.html |
That page is 4 years old. I too remember reading (more recently than that) that officially the UAE did *not* deny entry to anyone holding a passport stamped in Israel.
However, many UAE policies change overnight...and many vary according to who's sitting behind the desk. Best to err on the side of caution and follow the initial advice on this thread - get entry stamp on piece of paper, or plan on getting a new passport. That way you know you won't have any hassle in the future. |
That page is CURRENT. It's there now. Where do you get the idea that it's four years old? |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Middle East Beast wrote: |
| NadiaK wrote: |
| Middle East Beast wrote: |
| uaeobserver wrote: |
| As I recall, the UAE very quietly removed the practice of denying entry to visitors who had such stamps in their passport. They did so about 2 years ago. |
Maybe not. Check the warning about a third of the way down this page from the HCT web site:
http://fjw.hct.ac.ae/fujairah/new_staff.html |
That page is 4 years old. I too remember reading (more recently than that) that officially the UAE did *not* deny entry to anyone holding a passport stamped in Israel.
However, many UAE policies change overnight...and many vary according to who's sitting behind the desk. Best to err on the side of caution and follow the initial advice on this thread - get entry stamp on piece of paper, or plan on getting a new passport. That way you know you won't have any hassle in the future. |
That page is CURRENT. It's there now. Where do you get the idea that it's four years old? |
She probably gets it from this at the bottom of the page:
� HCT - Fujairah Colleges, 2005
One could assume that they update it, but don't necessarily change the date at the bottom of the page. BTW... MEB, you do understand that there are things hanging around on the 'internets' that have been there since the 90's. Lots of old websites on many topics that have never been updated or removed. 
But, of course, the problem is that things change overnight as has been said.
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