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Englishish



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello (T)LOH,
I can't see it being a problem walking with my boyfriend - cos I haven't got one!
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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More specifically and on a more cheerful note, are the shisha cafes for women too? Can I go there by myself and/or with other women for a smoke? I


No and no.

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Afterafterthought; is that why they let the female teachers out half an hour before the men?


By law, all institutions which have male and female students on the same premises (albeit in different sections, of course) have to have at least half an hour's difference in the times male and female students arrive and leave. However, since, as far as I know, the male and female students at KSU are on completely separate campuses in different parts of town, so there may be other reasons for the time difference.

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Afterthought; do the male and female KSU teachers even know each other?


I have male and female friends who work on KSU. They tell me that they have almost zero contact with the teachers from the other section - it's almost as though they were working for completely different employers (which in a sense they are). Of course, there are some married couples where both partners work at KSU, but other than this, there seems to be almost no contact between the male and female sectsions as far as teachers are concerned.
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bollidarling



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Male and female teachers meeting? Reply with quote

Officially No! But in reality.. yes and quite a bit. Last year we got together on many occasions (by choice). Of course the Muslim teachers don't mix with their male counterparts and don't want to however the western teachers (male and female) met on many occasions, went to functions together, swimming at the weekend, dinner at restaurants, parties at compounds, days out and still keep in touch. I will say however that due to there being no provided housing for the men this year it seems, at this early stage, very disjointed. We have to date met for drinks only once.
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Englishish



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answers to my questions. I am so disappointed that I can't go to a shisha cafe because it would be something nice and normal to do but I guess I should have expected it. (Oh to be a man!) Next on my list of aspirations; a cafe to drink tea without having to sit in a separate booth. (Keep lowering those expectations!)
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a cafe to drink tea without having to sit in a separate booth. (Keep lowering those expectations!)
You'd have to sit in the family section. As long as you don't mind loads of screaming Saudi kids running around you'll be fine. The idea is that you look at all the screaming kids and realize as a single women all that you are missing and then go home and ask Mummy to find you a nice man.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Train compartment style booths are still quite common in Riyadh, especially in cheaper, more traditional restaurants. However, newer restaurants tend not to have them. You do still sit in the separate 'family' section, but can usually have a table in an open area unless you request staff to put screens around you.
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Englishish



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: cafes to relax in for women Reply with quote

Family section is fine as long as I can find the best time of the day when there won't be screaming kids. (NOT my idea of a relaxing place!) I hate those stupid partitions though. I used to hate it in Bangladesh when you'd have those individual tables curtained off for families so that you couldn't even look around you when you went to get something to eat. That would have been tolerable but what was really infuriating was that that men used to come up all the time, draw back the curtain and stare me up and down without saying a word before leaving again! Not only was I stuck in an enclosure like an animal in a cage so that I couldn't look around but they could still come and look at me!!! So then I was like an animal in a cage on display at the zoo! Aaaaaaargh!!!

Not enough. Let's try again; Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhh!!!

I think I've already got my 'theme tune' for Saudi.

'No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women, no fun, no sin, no you - no wonder it's dark!' (from 'Turning Japanese')

Except that I'll have to sing 'too many women' cos that's where I'll be!
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