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Volta



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Paying for TESOL training Reply with quote

The more I look at it, the more I am sure that teaching English abroad is the right job for me to pursue, but, so far, the obstacle to jumping into this world has been the cost of certification itself. A little while ago, I applied to a school in Spain that runs a Trinity TESOL course, and the whole process went smoothly until I started looking for funding sources. I'm from the US, so I started by looking for federal aid, but you have to be in a degree program. Private scholarships typically have the same requirement. I also looked at private student loans and even career development loans, but it seems that the only ones available now are school-certified, so if you're not attending a college they're a no-go as well. I graduated college recently, and what little savings I had were eaten up by various expenses, so I'm rather poor right now. The only other funding options that I'm aware of, then, are personal loans and parental aid, but, as you may imagine, I have very little credit history, and my parents, who have always come through for me until now, refused to help out.

Honestly, I was really surprised that there doesn't seem to be any funding available for TESOL training, especially since I know that this field appeals to a lot of folks in my demographic. The burning question then is, are there any other options left? I really want to get going with this soon, but I don't know what to do at this point.
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do what most do: work a dead end job for a few months and then use those savings to pay for it. That's the only way i know of. You could probably use that time to do research, planning, or learning the destination country's language.

Also, as you're from the US, have a look at various threads in the Spain section of the forum about legality and the chances of you getting a job.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Paying for TESOL training Reply with quote

Volta wrote:
The more I look at it, the more I am sure that teaching English abroad is the right job for me to pursue, but, so far, the obstacle to jumping into this world has been the cost of certification itself. A little while ago, I applied to a school in Spain that runs a Trinity TESOL course, and the whole process went smoothly until I started looking for funding sources. I'm from the US, so I started by looking for federal aid, but you have to be in a degree program. Private scholarships typically have the same requirement. I also looked at private student loans and even career development loans, but it seems that the only ones available now are school-certified, so if you're not attending a college they're a no-go as well. I graduated college recently, and what little savings I had were eaten up by various expenses, so I'm rather poor right now. The only other funding options that I'm aware of, then, are personal loans and parental aid, but, as you may imagine, I have very little credit history, and my parents, who have always come through for me until now, refused to help out.

Honestly, I was really surprised that there doesn't seem to be any funding available for TESOL training, especially since I know that this field appeals to a lot of folks in my demographic. The burning question then is, are there any other options left? I really want to get going with this soon, but I don't know what to do at this point.
You could look into taking a course in the States or, if you think you want to do TESL as a career, go get a graduate certificate in TESL (for which you could probably get financial aid since it's from a university) or bite the bullet and go get a master's in TESL or applied linguistics (with an ESL emphasis), which would also open up doors for you in terms of getting licensed to teach ESL in the government indoctrination centers in the States.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a TESOL cert you want, the dead end job is probably your best option.

Most funding sources in the US are government tied- These aren't really a public service, but are tied to some archaic idea that society in general is improved by having people get educated and trained.

With that in mind, a TESOL cert, which is mostly going to be used outside the US, isn't really part of the picture.

However, a good cert provider within the US might be eligible for some aid I don't know about.

Best,
Justin
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid that for the vast majority of us, it's a case of forking out cash.
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Volta



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's what I suspected. Nothing wrong with saving up money, but the time spent doing some dead-end job just seems like a waste to me. I was hoping to get certified by the year's end and get working in the field soon, and, well, I haven't given up yet.

Right now, I'm in the process of registering for a month of Spanish classes (after the TEFL course) at a university in Barcelona so I can qualify for a student loan. I've always wanted to get better at Spanish anyway, so why not hit two birds with one stone, right? Hopefully it'll also give me some more time to find a job.

Has anyone gone about it this way? Well here's hoping that it works out!
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you don't take unkindly to this, but this reminds me of people working hard trying not to work. The time you spend trying to get funding could be spent getting trained and then into a job abroad. Then, if you get the sort of deal where accommodation is thrown in free, you can save money and pay your debts off (check that it's a country where you are allowed to take money out in reasonable amounts).

Put more simply, the idea of a job is to make money; therefore you get your CELTA or Trinity in order to get that job.
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Volta



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how it sounds anything like that. It's not a matter of working to avoid working, it's more of a catch-22 situation where I need money to get certified for a job and a job to earn money. It doesn't take a long time or a lot of effort to get a student loan. If we were looking at a time frame of several months, then it would certainly make sense to get the aforementioned dead-end job for a while or a job where a cert is not required. Unfortunately, I've had really bad luck finding work lately. I even went to a few temp agencies and never heard back, so I'm not really optimistic about local employment opportunities.

Ultimately, I just wanted to find out if anyone knew about alternate funding sources that I may have missed. I'm not wasting lot of time looking for them, but it doesn't hurt to ask, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volta wrote:
I'm not sure how it sounds anything like that. It's not a matter of working to avoid working, it's more of a catch-22 situation where I need money to get certified for a job and a job to earn money. It doesn't take a long time or a lot of effort to get a student loan. If we were looking at a time frame of several months, then it would certainly make sense to get the aforementioned dead-end job for a while or a job where a cert is not required. Unfortunately, I've had really bad luck finding work lately. I even went to a few temp agencies and never heard back, so I'm not really optimistic about local employment opportunities.

Ultimately, I just wanted to find out if anyone knew about alternate funding sources that I may have missed. I'm not wasting lot of time looking for them, but it doesn't hurt to ask, right?
Perhaps, if you're insistent on not doing the job thing, getting a personal loan is an option (depending on your credit situation).
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volta wrote:
Ultimately, I just wanted to find out if anyone knew about alternate funding sources that I may have missed. I'm not wasting lot of time looking for them, but it doesn't hurt to ask, right?

Ultimately, you're looking for the funding source that everyone else has missed. If you haven't been able to find funding, you probably won't. Think about it: your government may want to generate more scientists and whatnot, but they aren't in a big hurry to create EFL teachers.

The only funding source I can think of is trying to find a sympathetic relative or friend and explain that this is a way out of joblessness.

Ok, another thing you could do - although it means work again - is get on one of the poorly paid TEFL jobs where they 'train' newbies and live like a monk. Then go on a proper course and have both experience and a qualification on your side.
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dirimini



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must be missing something, but I don't see the problem here.

Get a job, scrimp and save, and then pay for the cert course. Many, many people do this when they want something they can't afford right away.

This apparently widespread idea that there is a loan or funding for everything everyone wants to do, any time, is actually quite disheartening.
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Volta



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volta wrote:
Unfortunately, I've had really bad luck finding work lately. I even went to a few temp agencies and never heard back, so I'm not really optimistic about local employment opportunities.


It gets pretty discouraging when every application/resume I send out for even basic jobs doesn't even get a response. And I don't have much credit history, so a personal loan isn't an option. When you include living/travel expenses (both in the States and abroad), the cost of the whole thing rises considerably, and I live relatively in the middle of nowhere so I'd have to move to get quality certification.

Maybe it's just my mindset, recently out of school, to think that there might be something out there for what seems like an educational endeavor, but anyway I was just wondering, and I'm not sure what's disheartening about that. TEFL initially seemed like a great idea for the personal challenge, travel benefits, and rewards of seeing your work improve the lives of others, but even more pragmatically I thought it would be smart to get trained to work in a field that's actually hiring now. Oh well, thanks for the responses. Just thought I'd ask.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where have you sent applications out to? Places in Asia (China and Korea) have a high acceptance rate.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volta wrote:
Volta wrote:
Unfortunately, I've had really bad luck finding work lately. I even went to a few temp agencies and never heard back, so I'm not really optimistic about local employment opportunities.


It gets pretty discouraging when every application/resume I send out for even basic jobs doesn't even get a response. And I don't have much credit history, so a personal loan isn't an option. When you include living/travel expenses (both in the States and abroad), the cost of the whole thing rises considerably, and I live relatively in the middle of nowhere so I'd have to move to get quality certification.

Maybe it's just my mindset, recently out of school, to think that there might be something out there for what seems like an educational endeavor, but anyway I was just wondering, and I'm not sure what's disheartening about that. TEFL initially seemed like a great idea for the personal challenge, travel benefits, and rewards of seeing your work improve the lives of others, but even more pragmatically I thought it would be smart to get trained to work in a field that's actually hiring now. Oh well, thanks for the responses. Just thought I'd ask.

Yes, I think it is the mindset. A TEFL career is there if you want it, and there are ways into it, but you will need to look at how you're thinking about it. I agree with Naturegirl that you might well have success with one of the Chinese or other Asian jobs, where you get air fare and some training in exchange for an unimpressive salary. Then you save money and go on a serious course afterwards. (Oh, do get somebody to look over your cv - maybe that's hampering you.)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Volta wrote:
Right now, I'm in the process of registering for a month of Spanish classes (after the TEFL course) at a university in Barcelona so I can qualify for a student loan. I've always wanted to get better at Spanish anyway, so why not hit two birds with one stone, right? Hopefully it'll also give me some more time to find a job.


Conventional Wisdom says to get the education where it will be applied. Because you don't hold an EU passport, Spain is not an option in terms of work. However, what you are doing is planning to participate in education's greater community so you are sort of doing this. While you're improving your Spanish, boosting your resume/CV by showing you're serious - even if it's because you travelled to take the Spanish course(s), and actually making use of your passport, you might want to investigate ESL/EFL from the "application" perspective.
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