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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 131 Location: Up in the air!!!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: GMC is the brand to buy in Saudi |
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You might avoid a Caddy because the mechanics don't know that almost every part on it can be purchased for a Chevrolet. The most popular, and therefore cheapest to fix are the GM (Chevy & GMC) large SUVs, Chevy Caprice (pronounced CAPris), the largest FoMoCo land yachts available etc.
Who really cares about gas guzzling when gas is almost given away for free? I would look at it this way. This will be the last time in your life you can ever afford to actually own & drive a big car again so just go ahead & enjoy it before the oil straw in the sand makes that giant empty sucking sound in the next 30 years. As an environmentalist myself that sounds hypocritical to say but someone is going to drive that gas guzzler & it might as well be an expat rather than a Saudi who will just drive it until it falls apart.
In 30 years there will be a huge, temporary market for Bangali and Filipino labor. The Filipinos will cut the roofs off all those big cars & the Bangalis will fill them with dirt. Then the Filipinos will plant flowers in the ready made flower pots. The real business to be in then will be camel farming. The guy with the camels will be able to name his price. The Filipinos will go home so the water desalinization plants will cease operation & a water concession will do well also. |
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The Lathe of Heaven

Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 162 Location: drifting from dream to dream from future to future
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Dear OP,
Unless you are a family with children you really don't need a car in Riyadh. Better yet Riyadh doesn't need another car. The brown smog hanging over the city is a good indication of this. We are married but we don't have children so we are satisfied with the company transportation and also the odd cab ride. We are waiting to leave Riyadh today and will look into hiring a driver in the city/town we will be posted in. It's really unsafe to drive here in the KSA and most Gulf States for that matter. You may be putting your family at risk by going into traffic regularly. In the end it is your call and I am just expressing my concern in this matter.
Regards.
TLOH |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| I disagree completely with TLOH. Riyadh is a place you definitely need a car. Distances are too great otherwise. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| The Lathe of Heaven wrote: |
| It's really unsafe to drive here in the KSA and most Gulf States for that matter. You may be putting your family at risk by going into traffic regularly. |
Well, the risk of an accident is always there, regardless if you are the driver or the passenger. Also, it is unsafe to take a taxi in the Magic Kingdom, there is a risk of an accident, especially if the driver of the Taxi is a Saudi from Bandar tribes who got their licenses through Wasta!!
I agree with Jones, in Riyadh a car is a must, especially for a couple or a family with children.
Go for Korean or Japanese cars, avoid GMC and Buick cars! |
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saharastars

Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 107 Location: Wonderland
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I was thinking of using public transport! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Dear saharastars,
To paraphrase one of Yogi Berra's sayings:
No one uses public transport in Saudi; it's too crowded.
Regards,
John |
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The Lathe of Heaven

Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 162 Location: drifting from dream to dream from future to future
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Dear saharastars,
To paraphrase one of Yogi Berra's sayings:
No one uses public transport in Saudi; it's too crowded.
Regards,
John |
Dear John,
When I was in Havana doing my practicum for my D-TEIL certificate at the Instituto Pedag�gico Enrique Jos� Varona Universidad de La Habana, I recall using public transportation there. My students took me out to La Rampa downtown for ice cream treats. It was crowded and hot but I didn't mind it. I don't think my students in Saudi would do the same even if there were public transport available.
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TLOH |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Dear LofH,
That's a very safe bet.
Regards,
John
P.S. But you may get invited to engagement/wedding parties (if you do, try to think of a good excuse - well. go to one, just for the experience of it, but after one, I doubt you'll want to go to another.) |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| P.S. But you may get invited to engagement/wedding parties (if you do, try to think of a good excuse - well. go to one, just for the experience of it, but after one, I doubt you'll want to go to another.) |
Well, john, I disagree with you in this one. I have attended many Saudi weddings and festivals, and it was an exciting experience for me, especially when you are invited in the big tent where you will be served with king dates, pure honey and camel milk, and dancing the sword symphony!
In one occasion, I took some photos but it seems one of the Saudi sheikhs was not happy about it, but I ignored him because I had a permission from the father of the groom!  |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| No one uses public transport in Saudi; it's too crowded. |
How about, no professional or educated person uses public transport in Saudi because it is filthy, unreliable, practically non-existent, no printed schedules exist, doesn't cover most areas, archaic, etc.
Once in a while you might find a person in trousers and a button down shirt on the large SAPTCO buses (but never on the small ancient ones; those are taken exclusively by laborers and menial workers).
And women? The only women I have seen taking the large SAPTCO buses (not allowed on the small ancient ones) are the African garbage 'ladies' (the illegal African women who roam the streets all day collecting cans and cardboard for recycling).
So when I ssaw this posted by a female:
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| I was thinking of using public transport! |
I burst out laughing!
Use taxis... they are almost as cheap as public transport in Europe. Most taxi rides cost SR. 15 ($4, EUR 3). And if you aren't going too far, it will cost SR. 10 ($2.67, EUR 2). However, if you have white skin, you will be charged about 50% more unfortunately (sometimes 100% more), unless you are good bargaining. Don't ask them to run the meter, as that will always cost more, unless your destination is literally 2 minutes or less away. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| 007, if you wish to embargo all US products and services, I suggest you get off the internet. Or were you under the impression that internet technology is Chinese-designed? I assume, of course, that your computer is a Sony or Toshiba. But they use Intel products to work, so again I suggest you get off the computer. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks God that Uncle Sam does not own the Internet. If he does, then we have to pass the security scan by taking our shoes and trousers off before we use the internet.
My computer is manufactured in China, assembled in Japan, and exported to America. So, China and Japan are not in my embargo list!
Don't you know that 95% of the computers are made in China! Wake up, change your shoes, China is coming .........
Now back to the car business:
Go for Toyota or Nissan, avoid GMC and Buicks. |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Many respected veterans of these threads such as VS have often advised you to put a sock in it before you embarrass yourself further. You never learn, do you? How pathetic to see someone's rants for years and years and they never grow as human beings. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I advise you to put a rotten sock in your mouth and flush yourself down the toilet of Uncle Sam.
GMC cars are not good, go for Toyota or Nissan. |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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007, what matters to you?
The country of manufacture? In that case, you shouldn't be using your computer as it is Chinese made. Don't you know that China oppresses its Muslim minority in the Xinjiang Province? And China oppresses all of its people in general, in one way or another.
The country of design/invention/conception? In that case, you shouldn't be on the internet as the internet is a US invention, and a military one at that! And the hardware and software in your computer are US inventions as well. |
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