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Which Cert Course is best?

 
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roman510



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Which Cert Course is best? Reply with quote
Hi, I am a senior at a university in California majoring in English, I want to get certified to teach abroad there is so many of them that I dont know which one is best.
-I recently went to an information session for Oxford Seminars and it seems legit, however I have seen a number of negative responses regarding it, is there any feedback from somebody who has taken that program?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
See if your university or another nearby university has a postgrad certificate in TESOL / TESL / Applied Linguistics. It will take a year, and make sure it's one with a practicum.

Oxford is a little below the going rate for 'good' when it comes to initial qualifications. CELTA is the name brand for initial qualifications.
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deena



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Ontesl for TESL Canada Reply with quote
Does anybody know anything about the Ontesl course for TESL Canada certification?

Would appreciate any info about this TESL provider.

Thank you.
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15yearsinQ8



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
you'll get more employability with a state certification in education which will take another year
short of that , the CELTA is widely recognizable abroad

do some substitute teaching and have them documented
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deena



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
15yearsinQ8 - thank you for your reply.

Frankly, I'm nearly 49 yrs old so the whole idea of credential evaluation and then having to go back to complete studies to be awarded the coveted provincial teaching certification just to to end up subbing at the very best - just doesn't seem the right path to choose at this point . I know that teaching esl to adults is also not amazing pay but I don't know what other way to go at it at this point.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Ontesl for TESL Canada Reply with quote
deena wrote:
Does anybody know anything about the Ontesl course for TESL Canada certification?

Would appreciate any info about this TESL provider.

Thank you.


Do you mean TESL Ontario? TESL Ontario is the provincial body for teaching English in Ontario. The programs are a year at a university or a college. If you google TESL Ontario, you can get find the programs that are accepted (UofT, Carleton, York, Humber College, Algonquin College, Brock University and some others). They are the same level of training as a masters degree from Australia or other countries (though from a soft formalism perspective, whereas the Australian universities are from a soft functionalism perspective). And so rather than returning to Canada for a year to get a 'certificate' that would allow you to get paid very little in Ontario and would be considered as 'equivalent' of a CELTA (if you're lucky) elsewhere, then you may want to think about just applying and doing a masters degree from an Australian university. That way, when you're done you can actually work at universities throughout the world, including in Ontario itself.
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deena



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you all for your replies.

No, Ontesl provides a distance and brick and mortar TESL course which is recognized by TESL Canada. This means that the certificate is recognized in every province in Canada except Ontario despite the fact that the course is in Toronto Ontario - how weird is that...

Yes, I probably should go back and get my masters but it's too dear both in time and money at this point and from what I hear, even teachers with a masters are finding it hard to get jobs. The competition is fierce.

So are you all saying it is a waste of money to do a TESL Canada certification course? I'm returning to Canada from abroad with a B.E.d and a teaching diploma from outside of Canada. I have no interest in teaching anywhere except Canada. How about just getting a job NOT in the teaching profession?

Thank you everyone for your time and advice.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why don't you contact the school board and find out if you can use the qualifications you have to teach in Ontario (or another province) right now (without going back to school at all)?

It's not a waste to do a TESL Canada certificate if you live in a province where the requirements to teach are no higher than the TESL Canada certificate (i.e. any of them other than Ontario or Quebec).

I've heard BC is nice...
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Chancellor



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Ontesl for TESL Canada Reply with quote
deena wrote:
Does anybody know anything about the Ontesl course for TESL Canada certification?

Would appreciate any info about this TESL provider.

Thank you.
TESL Canada recognizes both the online (ONTESOL) and on-site (Coventry House International) course but to get the TESL Canada certificate you also need a four-year degree either from a Canadian university or one that has been evaluated by a degree evaluation service such as the one at University of Toronto.

The on-site course (Coventry House International) is a Trinity course, the online course (ONTESOL) is not; though the instructors are the same for both.
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Chancellor



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
deena wrote:
Thank you all for your replies.

No, Ontesl provides a distance and brick and mortar TESL course which is recognized by TESL Canada. This means that the certificate is recognized in every province in Canada except Ontario despite the fact that the course is in Toronto Ontario - how weird is that...

Yes, I probably should go back and get my masters but it