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Sinaman



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Invitation letter expense Reply with quote

I am not sure if anyone here would know but is it easy for local schools/training centres, etc who may not have hired foreign teachers before to go and apply for an invitation letter (and the other stuff needed) in order for a foreign teacher to obtain their Z visa? Does their size matter? Is obtaining an invitation letter costly?
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Sinobear



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start here: http://gzjy.gzlm.net/BanShi/Foreigner/Rull_Employment%20License.htm

Although this is GZ related, the laws applied should apply across the board. This site has step-by-step instructions for both the employer and potential employee.


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Teatime of Soul



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Sinobear provided links that detailed the process, I'll only add that is is a nontrivial process and costs time and money.

That doesn't consider the opportunity costs since the school turns away otherwise qualified applicants when a FT has agreed to the job and the process is started.

If your school is new to the process they may have needed to pay a translator too.

Size makes no difference in the application process.

The costs can range from a few hundred RMB to several thousand if they get burned by a no-show job hire.

That tends to make schools untrusting which in turn causes FTs to become suspicious and untrusting.

Ultimately, that explains "why we can't have nice things."
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Sinaman



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info.

If a school was to hire some kind of local agency that assists with the whole visa process, as long as the school has all of the docs ready does anyone have any idea how much such a company (assuming one exists) would charge?
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a school was to hire some kind of local agency that assists with the whole visa process, as long as the school has all of the docs ready does anyone have any idea how much such a company (assuming one exists) would charge?


Why would that interest you? If the potential employer is asking the employee to pay for that procedure I would not work for them. It is their responsibility to obtain, or help you obtain, the necessary documents for you to work in China legally and they should also cover all the related costs. Upon arrival in the PRC they should also reimburse the employee for the costs of the Z visa application, which is made and paid for by the employee him/herself at a Chinese Embassy outside of China.
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Teatime of Soul



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. That is a "cost of doing business" expense borne by schools.

If a school that has never hired an FT before is paying someone to "help" then I would worry greatly that what is happening is an unlicensed school is paying a licensed school to hire the teacher. Not legal.

You need to ensure your school is in fact SAFEA licensed. It doesn't sound like it.

Ask for their license number so you can look them up on SAFEA's website.
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chinatwin88



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does SAFEA have an email address so that you could ask questions as to the process or to clearify a question or do you just use the Chinajob website, which would seem to indicate that SAFEA is involved with recruitment. SAFEA does not seem to be an open organisation and only provides an China job recruiters e-mail address for contact. Pehaps I am wrong but could you please provide an email if available.

www.safea.gov.cn
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