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dynow
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| 513 posts and I'd say 75% of those must be some kind of whinge or other moan! |
you were, and still are my inspiration! |
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Mr.Engrish
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hey, ya im pretty much on the same boat as jessica however insted of a degree i have a 2 year associates diploma and an online tefl cert ( which i know is not great but its somthing 
im just waiting for all my papers to come in as I am polish but was raised in canada.
anyone have any pointers for somone in my position because all im reading online is trinity tesol and B.As but i know there are schools out there that dont requier them, but i just can't find them  |
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sparks
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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As I see it, most any school will accept you if you don't have a B.A. and Celta or decent cert. The main factor/s are, how desperate they are and how cheap you are. If they have a pool of C.V.s from natives with better qualifications of course they would go with them first. I think Krakow probably has pretty many qualified natives so my advice is to offer your services for below what most natives charge (whatever that is in Krakow). Lingua Nova in Warsaw, for example will hire almost anyone to go and teach their in-company courses because when I worked there they flat out told me that if the Native srews up it is easy to replace them without much fuss. If a native screws up a course in the school however, bad word of mouth advertising is more likely and there is more of a chance to loose students. So, it makes more sense to hire the cheapest native around to do the in-company courses.
I know of numerous other private and international schools which have similar ideas, i.e. "expensive" qualified and capable natives to teach the "important" classes and "cheap" less-experienced and qualified natives to teach the "less important" classes.
Prove yourself to be a qualified and capable native and you can ask for more money next year or whenever. |
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Mr.Engrish
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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thanks sparks.
well I am willing to go anywhere in Poland to teach. By the time my papers come in i'll be ready for the January start. Krokow I would not dare to touch without any exp under my belt. I would be looking for a contract with an apartament provided as I would not have to count on my family to support me.
Are there any schools your aware of anywhere that would hire a newb like me lol other then the one you mentioned already. I'll send them an email |
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sparks
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Just google "schools in Warsaw" or something like that. There are only a few fairly posh schools in the city like Archibald, Mike Mills, Warsaw Study Center, are three that come to mind at the moment. They might be a bit picky. Pretty sure bets are Lingua Nova, The Tower, Profi always seems to be looking but they suck. |
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sparks
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Try "L2" and/or "interpersonal"--not sure what they really call themselves. Tthey also always need teachers. Last I saw they were looking for someone to go to Siedlce or Otwock or somewhere like that for a few hours a week. It's far out of the city but it would be a start. |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| sparks wrote: |
| Just google "schools in Warsaw" or something like that. There are only a few fairly posh schools in the city like Archibald, Mike Mills, Warsaw Study Center, are three that come to mind at the moment. They might be a bit picky. Pretty sure bets are Lingua Nova, The Tower, Profi always seems to be looking but they suck. |
Warsaw Study Center? Posh? They pay well below 1zl/min net and expect their teachers to teach over 30 hours a week to make ends meet.
Archibald seems alright, but again the pay is not great. And they alternate the classes' lessons between native and Polish teachers. Saves them the cost of paying more for a qualified native to teach every lesson, I suppose.
Mike Mills pays well.
Bell is a solid, reliable school.
British Council is top notch (but really hard to get in with)
Loads more schools in Warsaw. You could spend a solid two weeks dropping off resumes...ahem, I mean CV's, at all the schools in Warsaw.
Basically if the school pays on time, has decent equipment and resources, and doesn't force you to follow some goofy, scripted teaching method, then they are probably alright to work for.
Talk to the other teachers at the school before you sign on. If they seem alright, then you probably will be too. A good test of a school is walk into a busy teachers' room and ask politely, "Does anyone have a good activity for teaching the difference between the present perfect and past simple?"
If the other teachers in the room look at you with (A) blank stares, (B) if their eyes widen like you just asked them to donate a kidney, or if they (C) smile and laugh at you disdainfully, shaking their heads, then it's probably not a good school to work for.  |
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Mr.Engrish
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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yea when i first heard about CV I was like wtf is that lol untill i figured out it was a resume lol. Thanks for the advise shake but you gave me schools that are decent lol im lookin for newb schools
If all fails i'll just open up a Callan school, you dont need to know much apperently to teach lol and having polish papers would be easy to open. 
anyways I assume you guys are english "blokes" huh? |
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TwinCentre
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Eh yeah, not everyone is American here |
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Mr.Engrish
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| yea im from canada not america |
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justflyingin
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr.Engrish wrote: |
| yea im from canada not america |
Is English your first language? |
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Mr.Engrish
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Yes, it is  |
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hrvatski
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| Master Shake wrote: |
| If the other teachers in the room look at you with (A) blank stares, (B) if their eyes widen like you just asked them to donate a kidney, or if they (C) smile and laugh at you disdainfully, shaking their heads, then it's probably not a good school to work for. |
I think you may be met with the question "who the *beep* are you and what are you doing in our teachers' room?" in a lot of schools with this tactic. |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| hrvatski wrote: |
| I think you may be met with the question "who the *beep* are you and what are you doing in our teachers' room?" in a lot of schools with this tactic. |
Yes, best to introduce yourself first. |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| how about the Stairway School? I heard that was a good one and I heard good stuff about Bell too. |
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