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The Ever-changing Cleric
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| yes, you may face deportation (if caught). but so do probably half the rest of the foreign teachers in china who are working with no degree, fake degrees, or some other kind of diploma. the fact is, school FAOs and anyone else connected with the visa/RP process seldom check these qualifications further than looking at the website of the school that you graduated from. if the website looks good, then you're in according to some FAOs. |
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alter ego
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone helpful care to post something relevant? |
The site looks like a standard gimmicky promotional page to attract and recruit young foreign teachers into China. A link says they're sponsored by the International Education Volunteer Organization, but this just clicks back to www.oral-English.org. The main focus is a recruitment program they're calling the Native English Speaker Recruit Project, which appears to essentially be a program that finds and places young and inexperienced teachers into primary and middle schools across China.
In the Co-Schools section there are photos of some smiling, fresh-faced foreign teachers in candid shots teaching students in classrooms or posing with them in group photos, etc. I'm not a web page designer but it's a pretty good site I guess as it gives an overall impression that teaching English in China is a fun adventure in waiting.
The downside to this kind of recruiting is that once you're "hired" they probably place you in their "schools" (the schools that pay them money to find them teachers) on a needs-only basis, i.e., when your paperwork is ready they send you to the next school that needs the next white foreign face.
It's not necessarily a bad system, it's just a system that gives you, the job seeker, less options. Experience tells me (I'm an old fart) that in this system some folks get lucky, are in the right place at the right time, etc. and they wind up at a better school, town or city, a nicer apartment, etc.
The upside is that they take care of the legwork for you. But that's what most recruiters do, and essentially this website is just another recruiter that apparently has a volunteer program along with a standard business arrangement with a list of provider schools they get paid to recruit for.
OK, cut to the chase: If I were you, I'd get a tourist visa and go to the town or city where my friends are working and living and start my job search from there. Guangdong is close enough to Hong Kong for visa runs. You never know what kind of teaching jobs you might get, but be prepared to teach young learners in kindergartens and language schools.
Once in China, you'll have other options, like applying for a student visa and taking some Chinese courses at a local college or uni, etc. You're young, have a basic college education, and if you get that TEFL cert. you should be able to make a living here (pay your bills and save a little for your travels).
If you go with a recruiter you might get unlucky and find yourself staying in a crappy apartment and living in a hole-in-the-wall town and teaching in an overcrowded and dilapidated school where classrooms are stuffed with 45+ students who can make your work life a living hell.
You might not be smiling then. Probably only about 10-20% of foreign teachers placed by programs like this make it to the brochure. |
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protonoto
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| thank you for the responses! appreciate it. |
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