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Silence820



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: spanish classes Reply with quote

does anyone know of any good spanish classes in mexico city?
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geaaronson



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Spanish Reply with quote

Rumor has it that UADY`s program is best. There is also a program at the Alliant University that gets good marks. International House has a program but I have heard conflicting reports at to its worth.
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

um...no. but i would avoid academic institutions... just my personal preference.

i would go instead with a private tutor...
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildchild wrote:
um...no. but i would avoid academic institutions... just my personal preference.

i would go instead with a private tutor...

Definitely, or just watch TV. Spanish classes here are crud.
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Silence820



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLongWayHome wrote:
wildchild wrote:
um...no. but i would avoid academic institutions... just my personal preference.

i would go instead with a private tutor...

Definitely, or just watch TV. Spanish classes here are crud.


i am watching spanish T.V. now, about an hour a day, but i do not seem to be learning much. is there some kind of trick to to this?
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some people just learn better watchin a TV, sometimes a dictionary handy.

i'm not one of them. I prefer human interaction. Wink

but whatever gets er done!!! Laughing
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Oreen Scott



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my take on things:

Watching TV works if you already have some knowledge of Spanish. After a year if I'm lucky and listen very carefully I can understand enough to get the gist of what's going on. The Novelas are supposively the easiest to understand.

The internet is a good resource, studyspanish.com is a great. There are many others I use.

I'm now at a somewhat conversational level, if I'm lucky, and the advantage of a professional Spanish teacher is that he/she speaks Spanish to you at a rate of speed and with simple enough language that you can understand.

Easy readers help - If you can find "Easy Spanish Reader" by William T. Tardy I'd recommend it.

Intercambio is good, but I think it only works when the Spanish speaker is at the same level of English as you are with Spanish, otherwise it's not fair.

I also use flash cards I've made at Quiznet.

In summary, I use a lot of different methods, and remind myself its poco a poco.

I'm going to Guatemala in March and plan a four week immersion course.

I doubt all Spanish schools in Mexico are crap. Becari here in Oaxaca has at least one good teacher because I worked with him for a while in September and October to bring my grammar to an intermediate level.
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TheLongWayHome



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silence820 wrote:
TheLongWayHome wrote:
wildchild wrote:
um...no. but i would avoid academic institutions... just my personal preference.

i would go instead with a private tutor...

Definitely, or just watch TV. Spanish classes here are crud.


i am watching spanish T.V. now, about an hour a day, but i do not seem to be learning much. is there some kind of trick to to this?
You'll notice progress after certain lapses of time - kind of epiphany moments.
You have to pay attention but not try to understand every word. It works especially well if you learn by listening. I found after about 6 to 8 months I could understand almost everything. I then began to speak a little more and what I found was that I had developed a sense of what sounded right or wrong through so much listening. This virtually cut out (for me) the necessity to wade through hours of grammar in dull Spanish classes. But everyone learns differently.

I see most teachers learning Spanish going the same route their students use to learn English. I find this bizarre as for one it's the slowest most ineffective way to learn a language and two they could learn through exposure if they just paid more attention and made an effort.

Ask anyone who's fluent in any language how they did it. Chances are they won't say, 'I reached fluency in English upon completion of the final unit test of the final level of Headway after going through all the previous levels.'
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those 'Epiphany' moments are amazing! When people ask me the question that TLWH posed, I usually say, I don't know! It's like an organic growth - I couldn't tell you exactly when I reached fluency (if indeed that's what I have now, and besides, as in everything, I'm still learning). As an English teacher you are constantly telling your students, "Think in English", without really believing that's possible; then sometime in the future you realize that you are actually thinking in Spanish, i.e. not translating your thoughts. This kinda attachs to the other thread, "Is Spanish necessary. IMHO, this experience helps a lot with the mentoring of your students.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: spanish classes Reply with quote

Silence820 wrote:
does anyone know of any good spanish classes in mexico city?


To answer the OP's question: Yes, there are several options to study Spanish in Mexico City.

UNAM offers Spanish for foreigners
http://www.cepe.unam.mx/

Academia Hispano Mexico offers intensive courses:
www.ahm.edu.mx

IH Mexico has courses as well:
http://www.ihmexico.com/eng/espext1.htm

And there's another school:
www.angloamericano.com.mx
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Emeris



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll agree with a couple of the previous posters and recommend using different strategies, including TV. After watching some every day you should see quite a bit of improvement after a few months. Soap operas are helpful because the actors tend to speak relatively slowly and clearly.

I think language exchanges are a good idea, and they're free. They helped me a lot.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emeris wrote:
I'll agree with a couple of the previous posters and recommend using different strategies, including TV. After watching some every day you should see quite a bit of improvement after a few months. Soap operas are helpful because the actors tend to speak relatively slowly and clearly.

I think language exchanges are a good idea, and they're free. They helped me a lot.


Reading the cheap tabloid newspapers is an easy way to learn Spanish. They are cheap (5 pesos or under) and written for the masses (lower reading levels) and the articles are shorter and easier to read than the major daily papers.
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Silence820



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emeris wrote:
I'll agree with a couple of the previous posters and recommend using different strategies, including TV. After watching some every day you should see quite a bit of improvement after a few months. Soap operas are helpful because the actors tend to speak relatively slowly and clearly.

I think language exchanges are a good idea, and they're free. They helped me a lot.


what are language exchanges?
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Emeris



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Language exchanges - intercambios - where you get together with a native speaker of the language you want to learn or improve (who wants to learn your language) at a cafe, for example. You spend half the time speaking in your language and the other half in the language you want to learn. As Oreen Scott mentions, they don't always work for everyone, but for some people they're very helpful - I'm one of the latter group.
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