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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Other "ESL" Languages Reply with quote

Just a quick question guys...

Does anyone know of any other "ESL' languages? I don't mean the cra-p you learn thoughout high school, I mean exactly what we are doing now!

I do know that Spanish is one. They have the D.E.L.E. (Diplimos de Espa�ol como Lengua Extranjera>. At one point in my life, I would love to do the DELE around the world. My questions are...

What other languages do this?
Have you had any experience doing this?
Are you thinking about doing this?
What other languages do you speak (either, High advanced, fluent or native)

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Wolf



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: Middle Earth

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen jobs advertised in China, where they were looking for native speakers of Japanese.

Also, one of my former Japanese teachers taught "JSL" in Vietnam.

I also knew a Chinese girl who was teaching her langauge in Japan, as well as a South Korean man doing the same.

One of the teachers in our Foreign Langauges Department teaches German (not a native, though.)

I'm not sure of the rules, certification, etc involved in any of that, though.
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Marcoregano



Joined: 19 May 2003
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Location: Hong Kong

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanish, French and German, and to a lesser extent Italian, are quite often learnt as second languages.

Para mi, hablo un poco de Espanol despues un ano viacando (?) en Sur America. Pero hace mucho tiempo y ahora no lo hablo muy bien. Me entiendes?
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Lanza-Armonia



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

entiendo! Gracias Snr!
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that there is a test for Chinese. I can't remember the acroynom though.
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struelle



Joined: 16 May 2003
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Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Para mi, hablo un poco de Espanol despues un ano viacando (?) en Sur America. Pero hace mucho tiempo y ahora no lo hablo muy bien. Me entiendes?


Te entiendo Smile

I took Spanish in university but, like you, I don't speak it very well now. A vacation in a Latin country would be great though, and I'd like to try it.

On a side note, I've made some attempts at learning Chinese, which has very different word patterns from English. Since Spanish is a romance language and has grammatical similarity, it would much easier to pick it up again.

Steve
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a masters degree from the Montrey Institute in CA, for TJSL(Japanese).

I taught Japanese for 4 months in New York. It was very exciting.
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lostinparis



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

French is also one. A bizillion foreigners a year enroll at the Sorbonne program for "fran�ais langue �trang�re" here in Paris.

France has university programs around the country for FLE. I knew a guy who just finished up his FLE diploma, and he's off to London to teach, though future plans include teaching in South America.
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn wrote:
There is a masters degree from the Montrey Institute in CA, for TJSL(Japanese).

I taught Japanese for 4 months in New York. It was very exciting.


The Monterey Institute has more than just Japanese. You can get an MA in Teaching Foreign Languages and focus on any of a number of languages. And, of course, they've got English.

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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the corner of the world where I am, being able to teach more than one foreign language is an advantage.

At the university where I teach, English is by far the most popular foreign language followed by Spanish (mostly for exchange students,) French, and Italian. Many who teach French, Spanish, or Italian also teach English.

Lots of private language schools in this city offer more than just English. It's a real plus for getting hired if an applicant can teach English + French, Italian, German, or Japanese.

Regarding bilingual applicants having a hiring edge, Spanish is the exception, of course, since there are obviously lots of qualified people available to teach Spanish here. Spanish for foreigners is a big money-maker for some local language schools (and the university as well,) which charge a whole lot more for Spanish classes than for English classes.
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Roger



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the Canton Trade Fair held every April and October, I routinely come across young graduates trying to weedle a job as interpreters, who are fluent in French or German, some in Japanese, on top of English.
There are two universities in Guangzhou, maybe more, that teach German, one that teaches French (beside German).
I don't know how they recruit their students, but I am perfectly sure they have above-average command of English.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think that English courses are always cheaper than the lingua franca courses of the country?
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icollin



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I speak native french and english, a bit of japanese...far from fluent tho. I can read + write hiragana and katakana, but half the time I don't know what it means. I wish I could teach French, but where? I doubt a country like China would want to learn French as a second language!
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lozwich



Joined: 25 May 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiyas,

I'm hoping to take the DELE exams in Spain, beginning in the second half of this year. I assume that since I want to eventually do some w*anky cross cultural postgraduate studies in Spain, I'll have to have whatever their equivalent of TOEFL is.

As for other languages, I met a girl once who was Japanese-French and she taught French at Alliance Francaise in Japan. I think she'd had to go through some training process similar to CELTA.

Have a good day.
Lozwich.
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