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Who would get hired first?
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Which one would get hired first?
A non-degree holder with a CELTA Pass-A (Top 5%)
16%
 16%  [ 2 ]
A degree holder with only a CELTA Pass or lesser TEFL cert
83%
 83%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 12

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Deicide



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 1005
Location: Caput Imperii Americani

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Trullinger wrote:
Gallivanting. THat's a word for the week. Hadn't heard it in a while, and really like it.

THe only one who cares about your paycheck is you, Deicide. I sure don't care what you're earning, or aren't earning. Very Happy

The point in pragmaticism is to have the best life you can. I care about seeing the world, so I do. I have friends back home who care about having a 6 figure mortgage. Up to them.

But don't kid yourself. THEY tell ME that they wish the could see the world if only they had enough money. I've never told them I wish I could afford a suburban subdivision and a SUV.


Best,
Justin


I have been travelling since I was a kid, have been everywhere except Antartica (but my parents HAVE been there). I don't need to continue travelling the world, done so much of it that it might be 3 times what some people do in a life time. You think people ask me about that? No, they don't and yes I occasionally hear crap that other people envy me for worldliness or some other bollocks, they don't mean it. La llave es tomar decisiones financieras elegantes. Est�s presentando las decisiones posibles peores que la gente toma. Hay otras versiones de la vida entre tu versi�n y la versi�n de tus amigos.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sound pretty dissatified with life. May I ask how old you are? I've entered the ESL industry early and am pretty sure that with the right planning EFL can be an earnest career. A few years in the Middle East, buy some property, work your way into a university or set up your own company. Or just say screw it and head to a small island and teach natives the joys of the English language.

ESL definately seems to be what you make of it and it relies a lot on planning ahead. But I see myself set up quite comfortably by the time I'm 30 because I'm making the right decisions now. It's no different to any other career in that respect - if you plan and invest time to become an accountant then you'll do fine. If, however, you're satisfied working in the mail room year after year and then, fifteen years later, you're disontented then it's no surprise.
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Deicide



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
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Location: Caput Imperii Americani

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozzar wrote:
You sound pretty dissatified with life. May I ask how old you are? I've entered the ESL industry early and am pretty sure that with the right planning EFL can be an earnest career. A few years in the Middle East, buy some property, work your way into a university or set up your own company. Or just say screw it and head to a small island and teach natives the joys of the English language.

ESL definately seems to be what you make of it and it relies a lot on planning ahead. But I see myself set up quite comfortably by the time I'm 30 because I'm making the right decisions now. It's no different to any other career in that respect - if you plan and invest time to become an accountant then you'll do fine. If, however, you're satisfied working in the mail room year after year and then, fifteen years later, you're disontented then it's no surprise.


Don't let your students see that, you might disappoint them. Laughing

Maybe it will work out the way you think it will, maybe it won't. Life throws you a lot of curve balls, siempre....
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denise



Joined: 23 Apr 2003
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Location: finally home-ish

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozzar wrote:
You sound pretty dissatified with life. May I ask how old you are? I've entered the ESL industry early and am pretty sure that with the right planning EFL can be an earnest career. A few years in the Middle East, buy some property, work your way into a university or set up your own company. Or just say screw it and head to a small island and teach natives the joys of the English language.

ESL definately seems to be what you make of it and it relies a lot on planning ahead. But I see myself set up quite comfortably by the time I'm 30 because I'm making the right decisions now. It's no different to any other career in that respect - if you plan and invest time to become an accountant then you'll do fine. If, however, you're satisfied working in the mail room year after year and then, fifteen years later, you're disontented then it's no surprise.


I completely agree with you. It is what you make it. Many people enjoy this job, and those that think it through properly can even be financially stable in this job. And of course, if you're dissatisfied with this job or ANY job, then get out of it and find something that you do like!

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80daze



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
80daze wrote:
Last time I spoke to one of them he was looking at doing a distance masters in TESOL as his experience in teaching meant he could skip the BA and go straight for an MA.


Really? That sounds good. What uni is it from?


Sounds like "Rip-Off State" to me. Razz One of those life exp. degrees that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

If it's legit, I would love more info as well.


I've just sent him an email to find out - when he replies I'll post it up. I know he's taught TEFL for 6+ years and has a DELTA, I'm sure they would have taken that into consideration.
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