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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| college or semmon gakko in the morning between 9am and 12:30pm |
Uh, not everyone has the ability to do that, nor the visa. Newcomers need FT work to maintain a visa, and the above jobs look like PT work to me.
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| I did this for at least 6 or 7 years before I got my full time university job. |
Might be nice to know your circumstances, rather than saying what you did is possible (or the only way to go) for everyone. Spouse visa? Sounds like it from a couple of your other posts.
Oh, and to say "its stupid to work in Japan from 1pm to 10pm for less than 500K" is not fair. The market has never ever paid that amount, and the market is huge. Realize that foreign teachers are required to make the same as a Japanese teacher doing the equivalent work, and no Japanese makes that amount in eikaiwa. Plus, that time frame is when the clients are out there.
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| It means you don't have a life 5 days a week |
Who does? Anyone who works 8-9 hours a day has "no life" during those hours. Working eikaiwa hours still gives one time to do things in the morning, as opposed to night (banking, returning/getting videos, etc.). I suspect having a "life" meant going out and drinking/socializing in your original concept...? |
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ShioriEigoKyoushi
Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Posts: 364 Location: Japan
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mushroomyakuza
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 140
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Expect to work hard. Expect to be confronted by practices that seem less than professional. Expect to take 6-12 months to really get to grips with how life is out here, as well as with teaching. Don't think you can sit behind a pc in another country and get a full understanding from asking questions on a board like this.
Accept you don't know. If you can't do that now in the comfort of a known position (and many people, it seems from recent posts, cannot) then you will struggle out here because unless you're already conversant in Japanese all you will have for several months is uncertainty, confusion and dependence. That's the reality, no matter who you work for. |
I do already expect most of those things in honesty. But, I do also accept, like you say, that I simply just don't know, and in all probability, won't know until I'm there.
But, I am trying to collect as much information as possible before commiting to going. I don't want to screw the company over by getting 3 months in and having cold feet or be completely surprised by the terms of my contract or my job conditions. I'm not conversant in Japanese.
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| Bear in mind that the poster who seems to have written responses to every active thread on the board a few days back, but whose posting record suggests that may be the only things they've ever contributed here, has made some very provocational statements in most of those threads. They also appear to be basing their comments on outdated information and a very different set of personal circumstances to many of the other posters here. |
I'm not sure who you mean to be honest.
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| Quite a lot of them have never worked anywhere and come here straight from university, so they face culture shock and the shock of entering the workplace all at the same time. |
I'm not in that category. I left uni in 2007 and worked in a job I absolutely detested for over a year. I'm not saying that makes me know everything about everything, but in terms of the shock of a transition from uni to work, I don't have to worry about that. I'm more concerned about culture shock, although I have at least been to Japan before.
Thanks for your posts. |
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OneJoelFifty
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 463
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Mushroom, if I were you I would take the job, dive in, give it your best and see what happens. In situations like this I think it's always better to take the chance and learn from it even if it doesn't work out (which you can always do) than to wonder whether you should have done it months or years down the line.
I enjoyed reading a lot of what people had to say in response to the OP, and thanks to the OP for coming back and giving an update. A key thing that it took me a few years to learn (and I still have to remind myself of it quite a lot): enjoy the journey.
There's a line I really like by one of my favourite musicians. "If you're all about the destination, take a fucking flight. We're going nowhere slowly but we're seeing all the sights." I'd never suggest that to have a definite goal in mind is a bad thing. But I always think there should be a healthy balance between what you're aiming for and how fulfilled you're going to feel while you get there. It would be easy to achieve something over time that you thought was going to make you feel a whole lot more complete inside, but to find that your needs still haven't been met.
And sometimes, the whole point is the journey itself. |
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mushroomyakuza
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 140
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Joel, I quite agree. I think, in my mind, I've already accepted the offer. It's more a case of finding out as much as I can before definitely commuting. And also finding reasonable accommodation.
Joel, I've seen from other posts that you applied to Interac - were you at the seminar/interview yesterday? I was, wonder if you were there too?
BTW if anyone can testify to the kind accomodation Shane/Saxoncourt provide I'd be very grateful. |
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