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Laoshi1950
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| I am not certain about how "mandatory" this evaluation is purporting to be. I have been working at a key university in Beijing for the past three years. The test has never been mentioned by the International Co-operation and Exchange Office (FAO) of the university. None of the foreign teachers working here have been asked to do the test. |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: Nor have any of ours! |
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| Laoshi1950 wrote: |
| None of the foreign teachers working here have been asked to do the test. |
Nor have any of ours, thank goodness. |
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chengdu4me
Joined: 19 Feb 2009
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Location: Chengdu, Sichuan, China
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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I just created a profile and looked at this so-called evaluation. OMG! What a joke! They can't even spell correctly!
An example question: What is the length of term of office for the British Prime Minister?
Why would an American or anyone not from the UK know this or care about it?????
I did fill in the written portion..telling them exactly what I thought about their lame-ass evaluation!
Perhaps that is what everyone should do...sign in under an alias and make a mess out of their database! |
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Jayray
Joined: 28 Feb 2009
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Location: Back East
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| chengdu4me wrote: |
Perhaps that is what everyone should do...sign in under an alias and make a mess out of their database! |
Actually, that could make them abandon the program. If they can't track everyone because of all the names, that's a problem.
A friend who took the test said that he was given a certain time frame in which he had to take the test.
Perhaps the reason why I couldn't get past the education, chronic diseases, and prescription drugs is that I didn't have an appointed time to take the test.
Does anyone know if there is actually an appointed time to an individual to take the test? |
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tommchone
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| It's INDICATED that you need an appointment to do the online interview portion, but nobody has been able to figure out how to do that part of the evaluation. The rest of the test can be taken at anytime; there is a time LIMIT on each of the other parts of the test, but no appointment is necessary. |
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chengdu4me
Joined: 19 Feb 2009
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Location: Chengdu, Sichuan, China
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If you want to do this, I suggest using Yahoo to create a email address that you can then delete after you have taken the test. Use a phony name and other info, and take the test as miserably as you can.
I doubt that it will run them out of disk space, but it would be great to be a fly on the wall when anyone accessing this database to find a teacher or to examine the result of the evaluation sees all the crap. They won't use it and they will complain that is was a waste of their time. If you want to eliminate anything like this in China, embarrassing the creator is the fastest way. |
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Jayray
Joined: 28 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| chengdu4me wrote: |
If you want to do this, I suggest using Yahoo to create a email address that you can then delete after you have taken the test. Use a phony name and other info, and take the test as miserably as you can.
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It might be a good idea to use a proxy to take the test or to use a computer that is not in your apartment. Unless you have a dynamic IP address (one that changes every time you log onto the internet) the bogus test results could be traced back to you. Worse, you might get stuck with the deliberately bad results. |
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El Chupacabra
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
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Location: Kwangchow
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| chengdu4me wrote: |
| I did fill in the written portion..telling them exactly what I thought about their lame-ass evaluation! |
I did exactly that without an alias. Scored 100 on the written portion.
Even with less than 50 on the psych and knowledge tests, my FAO doesn't give a rip. He took my passport to the copshop yesterday, to extend my visa and get me that Foreign Expert thingie.
I think y'all are being more paranoid then you need to be. The Chi-coms only care about you finishing the test, so can do their chop-chop thing and wave you to the front of Foreign Expert booklet queue.
The actual scores don't seem to matter. Guanxi is all that matters.
加油！ |
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mike w
Joined: 26 May 2004
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Location: Beijing building site
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: |
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chengdu4me wrote:
If you want to do this, I suggest using Yahoo to create a email address that you can then delete after you have taken the test. Use a phony name and other info, and take the test as miserably as you can.
It might be a good idea to use a proxy to take the test or to use a computer that is not in your apartment. Unless you have a dynamic IP address (one that changes every time you log onto the internet) the bogus test results could be traced back to you. Worse, you might get stuck with the deliberately bad results. |
Instead of taking time to set up phony accounts, proxys, email account and then deleting it (all of which may cause some irritation to the 'authorities'), why not just ignore this so-called evaluation. I think they are more likely to get the message from this course of inaction. (Do you they going to deport thousands of FT's for not taking it - I think not). |
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tommchone
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
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The deadline has come and gone (November 20th). Anybody notice any ill effects from either:
a) not doing it
b) a low score |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:31 am Post subject: We'd've known by now of so-called "consequences"! |
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| tommchone wrote: |
The deadline has come and gone (November 20th). Anybody notice any ill effects from either:
a) not doing it
b) a low score |
If there were, I am sure that every single FT working at the private education centre I work for that is affiliated to a consortium of England-based universities would have known by now! 
Can you possibly imagine all of us being roundly criticised, if not fired, for not doing this Chinglish-language test?
I think that heads would roll at the Chinese government end of all this, not the British universities, if we were suddenly to be told that we were going to be chucked out because of failure to complete something we weren't told anything about! |
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tommchone
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
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| No, I can't imagine your worst case scenario. But then again, I never would have imagined that we would have been subjected to this "head game" that they called an evaluation in the first place. What did this accomplish? For whom? |
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Ariadne
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Well, you jumped through plenty of hoops. Rather willingly it seems. Lots of other folks didn't. Who knows what's next for this silly test. Doubt if we've seen the last of it.
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El Chupacabra
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
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Location: Kwangchow
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Ariadne wrote: |
Well, you jumped through plenty of hoops. Rather willingly it seems. Lots of other folks didn't. Who knows what's next for this silly test. Doubt if we've seen the last of it.
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I have an idea what's next for this silly test: Integrate the knowledge portion into our final exams. Serve'em right, for thinking their foreign experts need to know this stuff.
Then again, maybe not. |
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tommchone
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| I just got an e-mail from SAFEA/Chinajob.com asking for an evaluation of the evaluation; I'm assuming everyone that did the eval will be getting one. NOW we can tell them what we think. |
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