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moneyoriented
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 76
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Wow - I'm surprised so many teachers are introverts, and apparently happy enough with their careers. Would you guys consider yourselves (or have you been tested as) very introverted, moderately so or only mildly so?
I ask because I test as very introverted, and it's hard for me to imagine myself as a teacher of any kind. But I have a hard time imagining myself as anything else either. I do like the idea of getting out of my own country (lived here most of my life - I'm bored with it) and living/working in various countries. I also like the idea of making/saving half-decent money (in the Gulf). But I wonder if I'm capable with such an introverted personality?
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I'm not an introvert though, just an MBTI nerd. |
An MBTI nerd? Awesome! I have some questions for you:
1) Do you think an INTP can be happy and successful in TEFL?
2) Which cultures/countries might an INTP feel more at ease in than the American culture (where extroverts strongly dominate the culture and introverts are seen as weird, losers, etc.)? The reason I ask is because I heard that INTP's are sort of an ideal personality type in French culture. Have you ever heard something like that?
3) How might an INTP become really wealthy? All the paths seem to be designed for extroverts: entrepreneur, salesperson, corporate executive, hedge fund operator, private equity guy, trader, high-powered lawyer, etc.
Is there any way for me?
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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E-X-T-R-O-V-E-R-T!!! Thas' me to a "T"!!! As if anybody couldn't imagine. I'm also a carnovore and proud of it. An' while I'm at it, I'm a "person of color"...more pinkish than white. Have I covered all/most of the bases...remind me if I haven't. ... ...
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littleoldlady

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: |
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NCTBA
Also a person of questionnable spelling Color - colour ha ha ha ha ha ha
Ok I'm a Brit. What do I know? |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| moneyoriented wrote: |
1) Do you think an INTP can be happy and successful in TEFL? |
I'm an INFP and I am both. This kind of thing isn't entirely based on your personality. It's more of how you see it. If you consider it your career and develop it as such (qualifications etc) then it's no problem.
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2) Which cultures/countries might an INTP feel more at ease in than the American culture (where extroverts strongly dominate the culture and introverts are seen as weird, losers, etc.)? The reason I ask is because I heard that INTP's are sort of an ideal personality type in French culture. Have you ever heard something like that? |
This kind of question can't really be answered. It isn't the national culture that is the issue, but the people you surround yourself with. Looking at national character (which are commonly known as 'stereotypes') would mean that you should be an extrovert simply because you're from the US. But you aren't.
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3) How might an INTP become really wealthy? All the paths seem to be designed for extroverts: entrepreneur, salesperson, corporate executive, hedge fund operator, private equity guy, trader, high-powered lawyer, etc.
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By not teaching EFL for starters. |
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littleoldlady

Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I have to answer this one!
I am by nature an introvert yet I have a successful business.
My daughter is the same and she is a hot shot lawyer in London ( we are Brits).
You put your mask on the for day and ACT.
My bro - now an American is an extrovert. He hasn't got any further in life than me. He is also a big pain in the a....se.
My best American friends are those who are thoughtful, considered, and
not up themselves. Ok.. you all know who you are...
it's about individual peeps - not nations.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 3500 Location: Shhh...don't talk to me...I'm playin' dead...
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Oh, yeah...I'm tickled pink that Oprah will call it quits after a quarter-century of intellectual tyranny...
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khmerhit
Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 1874 Location: Reverse Culture Shock Unit
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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introvert or extrovert----v strange dichotomy, must have been thought up by some shrink with a degree in marketing and a book deal.  |
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DMcK
Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 111 Location: Madrid
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm both an introvert and an extrovert. Depends on the moon I suppose.
I'm happy, I'm not happy.
I'm schizophrenic. So am I. |
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struelle
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 2372 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'd go for introvert, and would agree with most of what is discussed here. However, based on experiences, I really think the *type* of teaching job and environment matters for personality, and it's possible how particular types of teaching are better suited for introverts, whereas other types of teaching are better suited for extroverts.
For example, I did all kinds of EFL work in Shanghai and was very satisfied with my career: business, conversation, young learners, IELTS, and so forth. The real advantage I found here was working in such a large city offered plenty of space for me to find opportunities outside of work to either socialize with friends outside of work, reflect on the teaching, or just chill out and go for bike rides, etc.
Since then I've "advanced" my career to getting a PGCE back home and teaching math/physics in international schools. Still in China mind you, but in very different settings. For the past 5 years I've mainly been in remote suburban locations for large school campuses, and unwillingly part of an 'expat bubble' where teachers continually hang out with each other both during and after work. In other words, I find there are very few opportunities for socializing outside of work or developing other interests. Most of the time I'm feeling lonely or just bumming around the house because I choose not to get involved in all this after-work gossip / socializing. Either that or I head out to different cities on the weekend for meeting people over there.
So I've found it makes a big difference. Ironically, it's more suited for extroverts to be in these kind of situations where the socializing and work blend together with the same people. An introvert would do better in a larger city where there are more opportunities to socialize (or not) outside of work. |
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duder_1
Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a Jekyll/Hyde: an introvert outside the classroom, an extrovert inside it.
I think this is also true of some actors - introverts off-screen, extroverts on-screen.
Regards,
John |
Same here. It's cool to know that a lot of fellow teachers fit this description.
edit: Oh, and most certainly happy. |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 664 Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm in between, I feel, although, I will admit to being more introverted than extroverted. What I mean is that I'm not socially inept or socially awkward, yet, I don't mind keeping to myself.
For this Meyers Briggs type tests, I'm usually pegged for being INFP type.
Introversion
Feeling
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 07 Nov 2009 Posts: 92 Location: the Southlands of Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
I'm a Jekyll/Hyde: an introvert outside the classroom, an extrovert inside it.
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I'm pretty much the same way.
And I'm almost always really happy. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Dear runthegauntlet,
I'm almost always content - occasionally happy, But then, what happiness lacks in length, it makes up for in height (plagiarized from Robert Frost.)
Regards,
John |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:54 am Post subject: |
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I think over the years I have become more introverted, but some of it may have to do with living in Japan. Also since becoming married, I go out less often , so that also contributes to myself being a little more introverted.
As to being happy, depends on the day you ask me.
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| In other words, I find there are very few opportunities for socializing outside of work or developing other interests. Most of the time I'm feeling lonely or just bumming around the house because I choose not to get involved in all this after-work gossip / socializing. Either that or I head out to different cities on the weekend for meeting people over there. |
Here in Tokyo, many people have extremely busy schedules and are married (especially the longer term residents). If you make an effort at socializing, you can meet more people and make contacts. It does take time though, as some people, especially longer term residents, are leery about just meeting people who may be gone in a year or two. Breaking into little 'work cliques' can take years in some cases. |
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Molson
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 137 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
I'm a Jekyll/Hyde: an introvert outside the classroom, an extrovert inside it.
I think this is also true of some actors - introverts off-screen, extroverts on-screen.
Regards,
John |
This is me. However, I am not an "entertainer". I don't think I can ever be like those teachers that have to be loud, wild and crazy to get and keep the students attention. I prefer to blend my own sense of humor to a laid back type of atmosphere. This is why I am more suited to teaching in Asia. In North America there are too many kids who can't focus on something for more than 5 minutes.
I think of it as putting on an act, and it does get stressful. I usually need an hour alone after work to decompress, though that has gotten better. |
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