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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 23 May 2009 Posts: 39 Location: East Sea Japan
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| That's funny. I asked that question at my ECC interview, but got a more 'elaborate' response, not negatively though.. Didn't get the job either way. |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Westgate Interview Not Successful |
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| seklarwia wrote: |
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| , "Westgate employees are not permitted to ride bicycles." |
What? Why not? |
I'd imagine that with the teachers being so short term, they can't afford for them to need any time off at all. And I'm guessing they don't pay bike insurance for the employees either.
So no guests means no late night house parties every night (which not only limits the number of hangovers but also keeps the neighbours happy); bikes could not only result in injuries for the teacher but also expensive legal disputes if an accident involves another person or somebody's property. I bet they'd keep the teachers in total isolation in a padded cell out of school time if they could. |
I imagine its not seen as fitting for a high level university "lecturer", as Westgate employees are masqueraded as being, to be seen needing to arrive at work on a bicycle. I can't remember if she said at all times or just for work, it was a long time ago. Judging by the other life-control rules they have nothing would surprise me. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Westgate Interview Not Successful |
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| cornishmuppet wrote: |
| I imagine its not seen as fitting for a high level university "lecturer", as Westgate employees are masqueraded as being, to be seen needing to arrive at work on a bicycle. |
If that's how they think, they don't know the least thing about uni teachers. Many of us use bikes to get to work. |
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cornishmuppet
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 642 Location: Nagano, Japan
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Westgate Interview Not Successful |
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| Glenski wrote: |
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| I imagine its not seen as fitting for a high level university "lecturer", as Westgate employees are masqueraded as being, to be seen needing to arrive at work on a bicycle. |
If that's how they think, they don't know the least thing about uni teachers. Many of us use bikes to get to work. |
That's why their response surprised me. At the time of the interview I was under the impression that a lot of people in Japan used bicycles for work, and I'm always keen for a bit of exercise. It was the only question I asked that I can remember getting anything like a 'sharp' response for. I might have been rejected for some other reason but looking back it was probably a blessing in disguise. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Westgate Interview Not Successful |
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MOD EDIT
I said making aggressive statements was a bad idea in this case. Westgate, other dispatchers and eikawa don't want people who are going to be troublemakers. If you are being what they would consider to be confrontational in the interview, or criticising the terms in the contract when you don't even have the job yet, that's bound to set alarm bells ringing. Why would they take the risk of you rocking the boat when there are 10 more other candidates interviewing for the same position who are ready to bend over backwards for the same crappy terms? |
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Mr. Kalgukshi Mod Team


Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 6613 Location: Need to know basis only.
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| Please stay on topic. Two off-topic posts have been deleted. Any posts that appear to be derailing the thread will be deleted. |
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Imseriouslylost
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 123 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: |
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I got outright rejected but I'm not taking it too personally as it seems that this happens to a lot of people.
At least they interviewed you, thats a compliment!
I was beginning to think they were some really elite, high quality and highly sought after "employment opportunity" and then I read what other people who have worked for them had to say. Haha. |
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dazedandconfuzzed
Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 30
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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At the induction we were told 7 or 8000 people had applied, (I was snoozing at that point), so I wouldn't take it at all personally if you didn't get in. I didn't hear back from them for a while so I emailed them to ask if they were still considering me. They replied offering me a second interview, which got me the job. Other folk only had 1 interview but I had my first interview in my mum's car on a journey, but it must have been ok enough not to have a flat out refusal. I'd agree that any hints of anything but enthusiasm may taint the interview.
Most of the people were quite experienced with an average of 3 years' experience, often in Korea, which I was surprised by when the ads don't ask for very much. |
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Imseriouslylost
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 123 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| dazedandconfuzzed wrote: |
| At the induction we were told 7 or 8000 people had applied, (I was snoozing at that point) |
Do you mean 7 of 8000 people that applied got accepted? Are the numbers really like that?
I thought it was more like 50 of 200 got accepted for most companies... |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: 7 or 7,000? |
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| Imseriouslylost wrote: |
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| At the induction we were told 7 or 8000 people had applied, (I was snoozing at that point) |
Do you mean 7 of 8000 people that applied got accepted? Are the numbers really like that? |
I think he means 7,000 or 8,000 - try thinking of how we'd say it verbally: "seven or eight thousand" implies "7,000 or 8,000". |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Imseriouslylost wrote: |
| dazedandconfuzzed wrote: |
| At the induction we were told 7 or 8000 people had applied, (I was snoozing at that point) |
Do you mean 7 of 8000 people that applied got accepted? Are the numbers really like that?
I thought it was more like 50 of 200 got accepted for most companies... |
No, it means that the total number of applicants was approx 7000 or 8000.
EDIT: Darn! Just beaten to it  |
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dazedandconfuzzed
Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 30
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Yep, sorry for the confusion, 7000 to 8000 applications for approximately 150 positions |
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Imseriouslylost
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 123 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| dazedandconfuzzed wrote: |
| Yep, sorry for the confusion, 7000 to 8000 applications for approximately 150 positions |
Wow! Is it like that for every job on the job board? Thats really disconcerting... |
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dazedandconfuzzed
Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 30
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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probably not, that's just what they *told* us, plus Westgate advertise continually and also don't ask for much in the advertisements. There's probably a lot of inexperienced people with online/weekend TEFL whose CVs just go straight into the reject pile.
I once saw 145 out of 150 applications for an office admin job go straight in the bin based on spelling/incorrect addressee problems. 'Dear Madame'... |
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nyc2323
Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 38
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I applied to Westgate recently and got a rejection email without even having an interview. I know I am inexperienced (i have a BA in English and a CELTA, a few years working in public relations but no real teaching experience), but the website was vague about the amount of experience they're looking for. I thought I answered the questions thoughtfully and correctly.
Just wondering what others' experience has been applying for Westgate? I wonder what i can do to make a stronger application down the road? |
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