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Job market and chances in Jan/Feb/Mar
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moosetown



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a newbie (EU citizen + Trinity certificate, but no experience) would it be worth making a trip to either Barcelona or Madrid for two or three weeks to job hunt? Any advice would be gratefully received![/code]
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on when you want to come and your finances.
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moosetown



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I did mean to say I'm thinking of going to Spain in Jan! Finances will be tight, but I'm hoping to be able to spend a few weeks out there job hunting.

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jonniboy



Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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Location: Panama City, Panama

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mozzar wrote:
True, Barcelona and Valencia are big but Madrid is still much bigger. It's almost twice as big as Barcelona and almost four times as big as Valencia.


Yes, but at the same time, bigger cities attract more immigrants i.e. English teachers looking for work. It's natural. When I first went to Spain I first looked in Madrid and I was looking for work in the financial sector. I was reliably informed by an agency recruiter in Madrid that Barcelona was the best place to look for such work due to the proximity to French border/ greater number of international companies based there. That was early 2003 - don't know how relevant that advice is nearly 7 years later.

mozzar wrote:
Not only that but I've been told that the emphasis in Barcelona is on the local language Catalan (sp?).


You speak about that as though it is a negative. Why? Surely bilingual students are more receptive to foreign languages than monolingual ones? Surely a bilingual student who has already learnt a second language will be an easier prospect than one ignorant of linguistic forms?

Also many Catalan words are much more similar to English than their Spanish equivalents. There are many but just off the top of my head, compare for example

SPANISH > CATALAN > ENGLISH

fecha > data > date
tio > oncle > uncle
cerdo > porc > pork
papel > paper > paper
Ojos > ulls (pronounced oo-ees) > eyes
primo > cosi > cousin
cenar > sopar > supper
azul > blau (rhymes with cow) > blue
noche > nit > night
balonmano > handbol
baloncesto > basquetbol (last two pronounced as in English)

There are probably a lot more, I dunno... (google it) but the point is that I definitely found students knowledge of Catalan/Valencian to much more of a help than a hindrance.
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Pigeon_85



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hola,

So if I have a Cert. TESOL and am a Native English speaker from the UK would I be able to get some work in January if I'm committed to doing so? I know that there are never any guarantees but roughly speaking do you think its feasible?

Thanks!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, feasible - no guarantees, but you'd be in a decent time period and have the right passport and presumably a reputable cert.
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Pigeon_85



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply! So you'd say go for it then?! I have the passport and the certificate so thats sorted. Its just a gamble money-wise I guess.

I'd still be really interested to hear from others who have gone in January to get their advice.
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still being offered a load of hours. One company has even offered me a full load of 20 hours, 9am-2pm Monday to Thursday starting in January. I'm meeting with them tomorrow to talk about a few things, such as wage. But it's tempting enough for me to leave my current 20 hours spread over 8am - 9pm, Monday to Friday job at the moment.
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Chris_Crossley



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Always assuming... Reply with quote

mozzar wrote:
I'm still being offered a load of hours. One company has even offered me a full load of 20 hours, 9am-2pm Monday to Thursday starting in January. I'm meeting with them tomorrow to talk about a few things, such as wage. But it's tempting enough for me to leave my current 20 hours spread over 8am - 9pm, Monday to Friday job at the moment.


Always assuming, of course, that the amount that the "one company" is prepared to offer you is not all that much than what you're getting now.

From the information you've given, though, it seems you'll have a 3 1/2-day weekend starting Thursday at 2 pm and ending on Monday at 9 am! Perhaps that in itself could be the ideal incentive considering that the teaching hours are the same, even if they are squashed in, concertina-fashion, into a tighter schedule than the one you have now.
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mozzar



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Always assuming... Reply with quote

The squashed up teaching hours are an attractive point. It'll be a horrible decision to make come January.
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goiter



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering guys when the next recruitment phase is after January? I have a place down but can only get in at January. I really don't want to wait till September to get a job.

I emailed a few of the schools and one in Lacunza said that their next recruitment phase after January is in April. Is it like this for many other schools around Spain?
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sevenpowers



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been working in Madrid for 3 years now and this season has been the worst so far, last term I was doing 30+ hours between the agency and my private classes, so far I've been stretched to get 20, and my working day has been extended from 8 to 12 hours because now I have to cover classes in the evening as well.
Rumor has it that there will be more work opening up in January but I'd wait and see. There are more teachers who decided to stay on in Madrid after Summer rather than taking off, so there is less work and more people looking for it, I've been lucky because I've been working for the same agency since the day after I got my CELTA and they treat me well when it comes to handing out the corporate jobs. There has been an upturn in the number of private students looking for intensives to beef up their CV's.
The situation in very tough right now, and a newcomer is not going to get much in terms of steady work, you're going to be running all day to get your hours in, and Madrid is a big city, I spend 2-3 hours per day traveling between jobs, and I only work in the city.
It's ok I guess if you're in your 20's and are looking for new experience and a bit of cash to have fun with, but I would really think thrice about considering it as a long term job option, especially if you want to have any kind of financial security and a life outside of teaching.
Oh and btw there are very few students that can handle a class only in English and it would be a wise move to get some Spanish down, you have to do a lot of explaining of Grammar and vocab to the under C1's in Spanish Wink
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gingermarie



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Jobs Reply with quote

ITA with the previous poster. Right now the job market is really bad unless you want to teach private classes. There are less classes this year. When I had no experience people were calling me all the time (2-3 years ago) Now, I cant find a job.
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