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finy29



Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Degree needed? Reply with quote

Is a degree needed to legally teach in Indonesia?

Thanks.
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Synergy101



Joined: 14 Jun 2005
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Location: Jatim

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally yes. However there is a way to "bend the rules" depending on how badly the school needs teachers.
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eddie honda



Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you have no degree a celta or equivalent is enough to make you legal
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phis



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]if you have no degree a celta or equivalent is enough to make you legal[/quote]

No it isn't.
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eddie honda



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well its enough to get you a KITAS, work permit and NPWP which by my estimation makes you legal.


this is a fact based on people i know, not supposition.
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rayman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie's right. It isn't legal, but it can make you legal.

I also know of at least 2 people without a degree or TESOL certificate that have all the legal documents to teach ESL in Indonesia.
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phis



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then someone did a little magic trick..... if you know what I mean! One of the documents your school has to produce for the KITAS application is a copy of 'your' degree.

However, it does work the other way round, you can get a KITAS with a university degree, and the degree can be in any field, not just one related to English and/or teaching.
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tanyakenapa



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught for 5 years without, a degree of any sort.... Smile no questions asked
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Zorobabel



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know many teachers in Indonesia without a degree.
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MrMrLuckyKhan



Joined: 08 Feb 2008
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Location: Kingdom of Cambodia

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phis wrote:
Then someone did a little magic trick..... if you know what I mean!


It's Indonesia!!! "Magic tricks' are needed to do almost anything there!

So NO, a degree is definitely not needed to get all the paper work to work legally.

[consider yourself illegally working legally] Cool
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Madame J



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a degree, and as far as I know I'm here perfectly legally. This being Indo though, perhaps I'm wrong. Smile
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Ragil



Joined: 26 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The degree is not obligatory. It might be possible that some teachers or teacher / managers could add - or be encouraged to add - spurious claims of tertiary education to their c.v. for marketing purposes. That, however, is an issue of credentialism rather than legality.
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