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bgrocky72
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
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 Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: BASIC questions- Please Advise |
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I have some very basic questions concerning the "Teaching Abroad Process". First, here is my information-
-Bachelor's in English
-certified in secondary education (could have my master's in 2 more courses, holding off for now)
-just finished my student teaching, looking for jobs here with the possibility of going abroad (Asia or Europe)
Ok, so here are the questions that I have developed while researching some of this.
1. Do I need to be TEFL certified (or any other certifications) if I am a certified English teacher here in the states?
2. I have taken interest in Laos, Taiwan, Thailand, Japan, and Korea- any opinions (I'm sure there are MANY) on where to go?
3. Where do I start? I know, very general question, but what is the usual process towards finding a job, applying, and going over there?
4. When are the usual start dates for specific countries?
I am very aware of how general some of my questions are and that they span over a large amount of information. But, I will be entirely grateful for any help you provide me because I find this to be a cultural, academic, and enlightening opportunity. Thanks a bunch! |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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1. Do I need to be TEFL certified (or any other certifications) if I am a certified English teacher here in the states? Depends. Do you want to teach in a school or instittue? Better pay is in schools, see www.tes.co.uk
2. I have taken interest in Laos, Taiwan, Thailand, Japan, and Korea- any opinions (I'm sure there are MANY) on where to go? Japan has too many teachers now. Taiwan has high taxes. Laos, never heard of jobs there. Thailand is laid back, Korea lots of money, but mixed reviews about life there.
3. Where do I start? I know, very general question, but what is the usual process towards finding a job, applying, and going over there? Apply, interview, offer, VISA: Get the visa.
4. When are the usual start dates for specific countries? Jan to March and then Aug to Oct. start dates, I mean |
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bgrocky72
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: Thanks! |
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| That's a start, I appreciate it. I sort of just need a kick in the right direction and that will definitely get me going. So, thank you. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
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Location: New York
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It seems to me, with your qualifications, that an international school is the best route. Postitions in these schools generally pay quite well and conditions tend to be good.
I would search threads about international schools if I were you.
Good luck! |
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bgrocky72
Joined: 30 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: Thank you again |
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| This information is exactly what I need to get me started. You have been very helpful and I very much appreciate the assistance. It's exciting to think about where I might be in August-October! |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: BASIC questions- Please Advise |
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Re: jobs in Japan
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-Bachelor's in English
-certified in secondary education (could have my master's in 2 more courses, holding off for now)
-just finished my student teaching, looking for jobs here with the possibility of going abroad (Asia or Europe) |
Does certified mean you have a license? If so, you'll need a couple of years of teaching experience back home to qualify for most international schools here.
1. Do I need to be TEFL certified (or any other certifications) if I am a certified English teacher here in the states?
For most entry level jobs (which you are qualifed for), no. But the market here is flooded, so it might be useful to get certified.
2. I have taken interest in Laos, Taiwan, Thailand, Japan, and Korea- any opinions (I'm sure there are MANY) on where to go?
Be aware of the time frame for peak hiring season, types of jobs available to you, and the nature of the flooded market, not to mention how to teach.
3. Where do I start? I know, very general question, but what is the usual process towards finding a job, applying, and going over there?
"Usual process" is you find an ad, respond, get interviewed (usually in person), and after getting hired you then start the visa application process. There are some minor variations.
4. When are the usual start dates for specific countries?
Academic year in Japan starts in April for most jobs. That doesn't mean you are forced to start then, but the peak hiring takes place for that target date. One exception is the JET Programme, which puts ALTs in public schools, beginning in August, but you missed the hiring deadline for 2010. International schools begin in the fall like their associated home countries.
For more info on Japan, come to the Japan forum and read the FAQ stickies. |
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bgrocky72
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| In regards to your question on the teaching certification: I am certified to teach Secondary Education (6-12) in the state of Illinois. Therefore, no, I have not had any years of experience teaching in Illinois, but I finished student teaching and have only 2 courses to finish my Master's in Education. Unfortunately, with the way the job market is in the U.S. it would be more beneficial for me to finish my Master's AFTER I got a job here (you would think it would be easier to be MORE qualified, but oh well). I don't know if that changes anything, but I just wanted to clarify. But, Glenski, I appreciate your help as it is. You have helped clarify a few issues that I was wondering about. |
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naturegirl321
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| bgrocky72 wrote: |
| In regards to your question on the teaching certification: I am certified to teach Secondary Education (6-12) in the state of Illinois. Therefore, no, I have not had any years of experience teaching in Illinois, but I finished student teaching and have only 2 courses to finish my Master's in Education. Unfortunately, with the way the job market is in the U.S. it would be more beneficial for me to finish my Master's AFTER I got a job here (you would think it would be easier to be MORE qualified, but oh well). I don't know if that changes anything, but I just wanted to clarify. But, Glenski, I appreciate your help as it is. You have helped clarify a few issues that I was wondering about. |
Hey, IL. Me too. What part? I grew up near Chicago. My mom teaches and says that jobs are hard to come by, lots of competition. |
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coledavis
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| Do note that teaching non-native speakers requires different skills from teaching English at home. |
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cdodson
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Location: Boise, ID USA
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| coledavis wrote: |
| Do note that teaching non-native speakers requires different skills from teaching English at home. |
Does certs like TEFL, CELTA, etc. give the theories for teaching non-native speakers? I'm new here too and have similar questions, so I'm a history secondary ed teacher in Idaho (almost, no actual in class experience yet) and was going to do one of the certs like that. The thinking I was using was that I know the basic methodologies of teaching secondary ed students, but the certs would give me that which is missing for non-native English speakers.
Chris |
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coledavis
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| cdodson wrote: |
| coledavis wrote: |
| Do note that teaching non-native speakers requires different skills from teaching English at home. |
Does certs like TEFL, CELTA, etc. give the theories for teaching non-native speakers? I'm new here too and have similar questions, so I'm a history secondary ed teacher in Idaho (almost, no actual in class experience yet) and was going to do one of the certs like that. The thinking I was using was that I know the basic methodologies of teaching secondary ed students, but the certs would give me that which is missing for non-native English speakers.
Chris |
Do certs like TEFL, CELTA etc give theories of teaching non-native speakers? CELTA and Trinity deal with the practice (and some theory) of teaching non-native speakers. 'TEFL' is a generic term.
I'm a little surprised that you can become a secondary school without any practice (or are you discounting practice on the teacher training course). Any theory and practice you already have will be useful, but yes, a good course will teach you specialist techniques you do need for TEFL (teaching English as a foreign language). Unlike history or physics, a content base is insufficient. |
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