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esl_jimi
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: Should I take this job? (Hess) |
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Hi everyone,
So, I'm a recent MA graduate with a TESL degree and I'm looking to get to China or Taiwan by the end of January. I went through Reach to Teach and was offered a position with Hess in Taipei City.
I know Hess gets a bad rap. Although I'm sure for every one who posts a negative experience, there are a few happy Hess'ers not posting. Still, I have this nagging feeling that Hess isn't my "style". I'm not quite sure how to express this. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't like feeling like my back is against a wall, and Hess kind of seems like the bully on the block, or a totalizing force. Also, I don't go for corporate inanity and Hess seems full of it. Although I do want teaching direction, I also don't want to be a robot. I've never taught ESL before, but have four years experience as a teaching assistant in a university philosophy department. I foresee wanting to have my own way of doing things, and (especially) not being comfortable being forced into a certain way. Particularly if that way involves a lot of ridiculous script.
On the other hand, the market is pretty bad out there, it seems, and maybe I should be counting my lucky stars that I got anything. Should I feel privileged for being chosen to work at Hess' Taipei branch? And, more importantly, given how I described myself above, would it end in disaster?
I appreciate any insight that anyone can offer.
Cheers,
James |
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LKJ
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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The answer to your question is possibly best described this way:
What are you looking for in Taiwan? If you want a professional and progressive teaching environment you can pretty much forget working for private schools. The budget, owners, students, parents and fellow teachers just aren�t geared up for it. Some try but most fall well short.
Regarding Hess or any of the other well known school, you are at least onto a safer bet. Some posters will recall their bad experiences with chain schools and many others are very happy. The buck stops with their success and they dominate the market. That is not a bad thing if you are new to Taiwan or teaching English.
I haven�t a clue if you�ll like working for them. Largely this is up to your attitude and expectations (see my question to you above). But at least you�ll be paid on time and receive some basic rights (if you uphold your end of the bargain) while many other schools will take you for the ride of your life.
I've gotten to know the people at Reach To Teach and you should talk to them about your concerns. They are good people, will listen to your thoughts and give you some fair advice.
I hope this helps, somehow.
LKJ |
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Virogen
Joined: 03 Dec 2009 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: Hess |
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| I'd suggest taking it and then begin searching for another job. It'll keep you financially stable while you find something more suitable... |
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esl_jimi
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Virogen: Is it easy to switch jobs like that? Won't I be facing a hefty breach of contract penalty?
LKJ: Not sure what I'm looking for in Taiwan. It's a good question. Stability, yes. Money, yes. Progressive teaching environment?.. I'm not entirely sure what that entails. I'd like ample course direction, but not to be a robot. Maybe Hess isn't such a bad idea. |
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LKJ
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: Hess |
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| Virogen wrote: |
| I'd suggest taking it and then begin searching for another job. It'll keep you financially stable while you find something more suitable... |
I can't agree that's the smart thing to do. Much better to find a job you actually want and start as you mean to go on.
I don't know about most people, but when chose Taiwan I came here to spend my free time having fun, learning Chinese and exploring. Not to job hunt again, do demos, break a contract, lose pay and then re-apply for a new work permit and an ARC. All for what .....the hope of slightly greener grass?
Teaching jobs in Taiwan's private schools are much the same wherever you go. Kids in the wrong levels, the usual crazy expectations placed on teachers, minimal differences in pay, money focussed managers, extra duties without pay = are in pretty much true of every school, period.
The only robot teachers I know are the ones that have no personality in the first place. No school wants a robot. It's bad for business. Students will leave the class bored and it won't be long until the parents hear of another school just down the road that has what their kid (and every other kid) wants....a teacher that brings the lesson to life with loads of fun and cool teaching ideas.
Correct me if I am missing something.
I hope this helps.
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esl_jimi
Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your points LKJ. You make some good ones. I hadn't really considered it that way. You're right, any difference between private schools will likely be marginal, I suppose.
Although, apparently Hess has a problem giving you a schedule before you sign onto anything. I would want to know before I get on the plane whether I have a split day from 8:30AM to 8:30PM, or classes straight in the evenings (for example).
Another question: is it the norm to be working six days a week, mostly evenings, in Taiwan? A recruiter told me this... |
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LKJ
Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 57
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| esl_jimi wrote: |
Thanks for your points LKJ. You make some good ones. I hadn't really considered it that way. You're right, any difference between private schools will likely be marginal, I suppose.
Although, apparently Hess has a problem giving you a schedule before you sign onto anything. I would want to know before I get on the plane whether I have a split day from 8:30AM to 8:30PM, or classes straight in the evenings (for example).
Another question: is it the norm to be working six days a week, mostly evenings, in Taiwan? A recruiter told me this... |
Taiwan offers 4 main teaching options. In no particular order:
Teaching at a public government school
Teachers: Available to fully qualified teachers (qualified to teach in your home country)
Days: Typically Monday � Friday
Hours: Block mornings (8.30am start) and block afternoons (finish around 4.30pm)
Split schedules: Unlikely
Teaching at a University
Teachers: Available to those with a relevant Masters or a PhD (usually a PhD nowadays)
Days: Typically Monday � Friday, but not always.
Hours: Very variable (mornings / afternoons / evenings).
Split schedules (within the times mentioned above): Likely
Teaching Kindergarten (private school)
Teachers: Anyone with a diploma
Days: Typically Monday � Friday
Hours: Block mornings and afternoons
Split schedules: Unlikely
Note: This job is illegal
Teaching Elementary and older / Adults (private school)
Teachers: Anyone with a diploma
Days: Typically Monday � Saturday
Hours: Typically start in the later afternoon and finish in the later evening
Split schedules (within the times mentioned above): Likely
Note: Elementary is by far the biggest market |
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