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best place for a newbie who doesn't mind the sticks?
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ewe



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: best place for a newbie who doesn't mind the sticks? Reply with quote

hi guys I just wanted to run this by you, in case this plan sounds extremely stupid...i just finished Celta and am in Thailand right now. I have some volunteering commitments working as a teacher in Thailand, and after that i need to start looking for a job. my money is low, and i realise that Japan is expensive (especially for the first few months), however, i have a credit card and don't mind using it for a few thousand.

i've seen a lot of posts on here with people wanting to move to tokyo or the big cities, i wouldn't mind this, but i like small town life and don't mind being isolated...considering the job market in Nihon right now, most people aren't gonna be able to pick a placement anyway! any recommended recruiters?
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have some volunteering commitments working as a teacher in Thailand, and after that i need to start looking for a job.
When exactly? Now to beginning of February is the worst time to look for work here.

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i have a credit card and don't mind using it for a few thousand.
You may need to use it for US$4000-5000. Got that? I really wouldn't advise living on the edge like you propose. You're going to have to come here because practically nobody recruits teachers from Thailand. That means setting yourself up with a base (gaijin house is cheapest, at 50,000-80,000 per month, perhaps even with a 25,000 security deposit). Get hired tomorrow (unlikely), and you won't even get a first paycheck for 4-6 weeks.
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ewe



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, yeah a meant a few thousand pounds...same thing...

wouldn't getting an invitation letter not matter where I was based at the time?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean "not matter"?
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Mr_Monkey



Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewe wrote:
well, yeah a meant a few thousand pounds...same thing...
Because banks don't keep records, and you're never going back anyway, right?
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewe wrote:
well, yeah a meant a few thousand pounds...same thing...

wouldn't getting an invitation letter not matter where I was based at the time?


Can I ask what you mean by invitation letter? Do you mean job offer? If so, a number of Japanese companies/schools actually actively recruit overseas, and that is by far the easiest way to get set up in Japan as your visa and possibly your accommodation will all be arranged in advance by the company.

Glenski is saying that from Thailand you won't have that kind of opportunity, because recruiters don't go there. Unless you can find an employer willing to do Skype interviews you will have to come to Japan to look for work, and timing is crucial as you only have 90 days to arrange something before your tourist permit expires.
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ewe



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Monkey wrote:
ewe wrote:
well, yeah a meant a few thousand pounds...same thing...
Because banks don't keep records, and you're never going back anyway, right?



wha......? i was merely saying that i knew it costs 250000yen to start up and was letting glenski know...as he ever so curtly replied to me.

thankyou apsara for at least giving some decent advice...i have concluded that if I want to work in Nihon it will be much less of a headache doing it from Britain (where at least i can go move in with parents if all falls apart Razz)
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Bread



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, this guy is British. He can just get a working holiday visa.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, now we know ewe is British (do we know ewe is a guy? ewes are usually female Wink ), so as long as he/she is under 31, he/she can get a working holiday visa, which takes away the visa issue and the time limit, although not so much the set-up costs. Are you still under 31, ewe?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bread wrote:
Uh, this guy is British. He can just get a working holiday visa.
Not unless he returns to the UK first. Can't get it in Bangkok.

ewe wrote:
wha......? i was merely saying that i knew it costs 250000yen to start up
It can cost far more than that, or didn't you read what I wrote?

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and was letting glenski know...as he ever so curtly replied to me.
Curtly? Mine was practically the longest post here.

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thankyou apsara for at least giving some decent advice
You have some nerve writing that! How about answering the 2 questions I posed, if that's not too much trouble?
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ShioriEigoKyoushi



Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nabby Adams



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't everybody wash their own rice? Shocked
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Curtly? Mine was practically the longest post here.



Glenski, I'm pretty sure that ewe is using "curt" here to mean "brusque" or "terse"- it wasn't a reference to the length of your post. You know, I think, that that is how you come across to many people in your posts, even if you don't intend to- this is a case in point.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ewe wrote:
wha......? i was merely saying that i knew it costs 250000yen to start up and was letting glenski know...as he ever so curtly replied to me.

There was a lot missing from my post, for which I apologise. I was really suggesting that attempting to move to Japan on a credit card is a really bad idea.

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thankyou apsara for at least giving some decent advice...i have concluded that if I want to work in Nihon it will be much less of a headache doing it from Britain (where at least i can go move in with parents if all falls apart Razz)
I agree - go home first and arrange it from there.

Seriously, though, DO NOT put two and a half grand on your credit card just to move to Japan - your life will suck, both before and after you find a job (if you find one at all).
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ewe



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol cheers working holiday visa pour moi i think...after saving some funds..
the point of this post was to get people telling me it was stupid to use my credit card this way, and that's what happened...so i guess i won't do that..thinking about it it does seem silly...
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