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Mekyn



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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Location: Cuernavaca
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: FM3 questions Reply with quote
Do I need apostilled bank statements to apply for my fm3? I was told this by someone living here. Also do I need to wait until I get a job to apply for my fm3 or can apply for an independent before I have a job. I would like to work independently and maybe at a language school part-time. I appreciate any help.
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geaaronson



Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Location: Mexico City
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: furthermore Reply with quote
I got my initial FM3 independente in Merida and no, I did not need apostilled bank statements.
I did however need to get a letter from at least one potential employer attesting to the fact that they intended to hire me as an English teacher and give it to immigration.
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amaranto



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
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Location: M�xico, D.F.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got my FM3 in D.F., and they didn't require bank statements. I believe bank statements are only required for foreigners who intend to reside in Mexico without providing some kind of paid service, like an expat on a pension.

According to my lawyer, having an independent FM3 would exclude you from being contracted under other forms of employment (in your case, a job at a language school). From what I've gathered, getting an FM3 using an employer sponsor seems to be the easiest route. Later on you can get immigration to broaden your activities description on the FM3 itself, which is called an
ampliaci�n de actividades. I'm getting this done come February.

This Immigration link should be helpful: http://www.inm.gob.mx/EN/index.php?page/If_you_intend_to_engage
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Prof.Gringo



Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
amaranto wrote:
I got my FM3 in D.F., and they didn't require bank statements. I believe bank statements are only required for foreigners who intend to reside in Mexico without providing some kind of paid service, like an expat on a pension.

According to my lawyer, having an independent FM3 would exclude you from being contracted under other forms of employment (in your case, a job at a language school). From what I've gathered, getting an FM3 using an employer sponsor seems to be the easiest route. Later on you can get immigration to broaden your activities description on the FM3 itself, which is called an
ampliaci�n de actividades. I'm getting this done come February.

This Immigration link should be helpful: http://www.inm.gob.mx/EN/index.php?page/If_you_intend_to_engage


Yes, that's correct. Many people on this forum incorrectly assume that a FM-3 that allows you to teach English as an independent teacher also allows you to work for a school or business and be on the payroll. That's simply not so. Doing so is of course illegal and a violation of the terms of such a FM-3. If you want to work for a school you must have specific authorization to do so.
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notamiss



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Prof.Gringo wrote:
Many people on this forum incorrectly assume that a FM-3 that allows you to teach English as an independent teacher also allows you to work for a school or business and be on the payroll. That's simply not so. Doing so is of course illegal and a violation of the terms of such a FM-3. If you want to work for a school you must have specific authorization to do so.


Agree that you couldn't be on the school�s payroll, but wouldn't it be all right to work for a language school if they engage you as a freelancer, not an employee, and they are considered a client of yours and you issue them recibos de honorarios? I mean if you wanted to go that route (no bennies).
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Phil_K



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
notamiss wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
Many people on this forum incorrectly assume that a FM-3 that allows you to teach English as an independent teacher also allows you to work for a school or business and be on the payroll. That's simply not so. Doing so is of course illegal and a violation of the terms of such a FM-3. If you want to work for a school you must have specific authorization to do so.


Agree that you couldn't be on the school�s payroll, but wouldn't it be all right to work for a language school if they engage you as a freelancer, not an employee, and they are considered a client of yours and you issue them recibos de honorarios? I mean if you wanted to go that route (no bennies).


That's what I did! (and still do) and I think it's OK.
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Mekyn



Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's fine...i don't need benefits...just income. Do many language schools in Mexico hire teachers as "freelancers?"
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Most of them. They don't actually put it that way, but as you are providing receipts for your pay and receive no benefits, that's what you are.
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TheLongWayHome



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mekyn wrote:
That's fine...i don't need benefits...just income. Do many language schools in Mexico hire teachers as "freelancers?"

Yes, you are freelance but only in theory.

It's kind of like being freelance with none of the benefits. You're not your own boss, you don't decide when you work or how much you charge for your services. You have to find someone to cover you if you're absent (why would a 'freelancer' do this??) or if you want to take a vacation. Someone else pays your taxes for you - and just try to get them back. Never goes down too well.
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gregd75



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