Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Arabia -Tesol
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> United Arab Emirates
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
sisyphus



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Arabia -Tesol Reply with quote

Is it worth visiting the Arabia Tesol conference and job fair prior to completing your MA? Or do you need to have completed it before going for it be of any use? How far in advance do ME employers recruit?
Has anyone been to this -is it worth visiting in terms of employment?
Regards...The Sisyphus
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MrScaramanga



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 221

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sisyphus,

Yes, you should complete your MA and get at least 3 years teaching experience before you can really get your money's worth at TESOL Arabia. This is especially true for tertiary institutions who will not employ anyone without these quals. By the way, the MA should also be in Applied Lings, TESOL, or TEFL.

Once you have these quals, the job fair is definitely worth the trip, as employers from all over the Gulf send reps there to interview candidates. It's kinda like one-stop-shopping Laughing

MrS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sisyphus



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the experience but not the MA?! Confused I know its been mentioned that employers look for 3 years post MA , I have many years pre MA and at various levels..not sure if i can get a tertiary job with that.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have extensive (3+years) experience teaching adults... preferably university level... any Arabic speakers?... Academic English... reading/writing..., I think it is worth the trip once you have the MA. The experience may not count towards your pay level at some (many? most?) employers, but would increase the chances of offers.

I know of people with brand new MAs who got an offer from every place that they interviewed with at a conference. (and the offers were from the top employers) But they had extensive experience teaching Arabic speakers at varying ages.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sisyphus



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ..
my experience in a nutshell: two years teaching Political Philosophy at a UK Uni, 4 years teaching english at secondary level(not UK) , the rest , about 8 years teaching adults (corporate, military,private language school) , have ran my own language school as DOS . Will be doing some EAP at the local Uni next year but only a few lessons a week....

Extensive experience making tea and reading obscure novels...

The Sisyphus
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MrScaramanga



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 221

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid tea-making doesn't count as experience at TESOL Arabia Laughing Wait it out and go when you're ready for the big guns. You're still a light weight as it is.
MrS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sisyphus



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr S. Thanks for that. I used to be a Metaphysical poet..does that count?
Seriously, you think my experience is not enough?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MrScaramanga



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Posts: 221

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if I read you right, you really don't have university-level experience teaching English. That, and not having an MA, makes you a light weight at the TESOL Arabia job fair.

To get a job at a respectable tertiary institution in the Gulf, you really have to have experience teaching the subject (English, ESL, EFL) at the university level (minimum 3 years).

So, there you have it!
MrS

PS. I'm afraid metaphysics and poetry also do not count as relevant experience at the job fair... Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sisyphus wrote:
Extensive experience making tea and reading obscure novels...

While this experience will be crucial for mental survival in the sometimes quiet Gulf jobs, I agree with Mr S. (Do get a Kindle and load lots of those novels Laughing) I'd follow your year of part-time EAP with at least another full time year if you can.

Personally, I would have at least that before I made a try at TESOL Arabia. The first contract is often not great, but the completion of a contract would then give you a leg up for a better job in 2-3 years when you complete. Of course... this is sort of our opinion... and YMMV. It's all about supply and demand and a number have managed with less. Also, think about expanding your search beyond just the UAE. But, at the absolute minimum, I would have a completed MA. For those employers who require an MA, they are infamous for not even looking at a CV where the MA is a work in progress.

BTW... hiring at TESOL-Arabia - usually in March - is for the following August/September starts.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Harvey



Joined: 12 Dec 2009
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz up your CV.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PC Parrot



Joined: 11 Dec 2009
Posts: 459
Location: Moral Police Station

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sen misin, Harvey?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sisyphus



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I am not applying now, I will obviously do the MA first. Im surprised that with the number of years experience I have , I wouldnt be considered. But yes I dont have EFL experience at Uni level..and not much chance besides part time experience here..there just isnt any jobs in this field. Perhaps Qatar or Oman may be easier to get Uni jobs... Crying or Very sad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QU hires quite a few teachers with new MAs. The money isn't bad at all at entry level. SQU in Oman is worth a try... or even the University of Nizwa. The money isn't grand, but any of the three would be great for the CV. You can read all about them on the various boards.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sisyphus



Joined: 20 Sep 2009
Posts: 170

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great. Thanks for that...

'Packs books into rucksack and a few packets of Twinings tea, ...' Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kindle... I'm tellin' ya... a Kindle is the "must have" item for the ME teacher. If only they had had it back in my day. I can't tell you how many bad books I had to read because there was nothing else around. Laughing

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> United Arab Emirates All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China