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Chancellor
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| Spiral78 I agree with what you have stated, and I read another post that said that if it is a long distance degree from a respected university then it is recognized around the world. I can not see this being true. |
Whether the school in question is regionally (in the US) or otherwise accredited by a valid accrediting body (like whatever body accredits universities such as Cambridge or Oxford) will likely make a difference.
Some of you people are still stuck back in the 20th century when the number of accredited universities (like the various state universities in the United States) doing distance degrees were few and far between. |
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Chancellor
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info guys, but I still don�t think that on-line degrees and long distance are the same as going to university. As I haven�t got any experience dealing with any of the two I have to rely on what I am told by more experienced people. I remember my university time the first time around, and it was hard. Doing part-time jobs, not getting to bed until the small hours of the morning etc. The second time was good for I had just spent 5 years in Saudi, so I had saved a lot of money and I went back to university for my second degree. This time it was easier as I used the money from Saudi to pay for everything. |
And you somehow have this silly notion that people who are doing their degrees online don't have to spend as many hours studying and doing class assignments as you did on campus or that they also aren't working at least part-time (if not full-time) jobs? |
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Chancellor
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Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| myvoicehurts wrote: |
Hat's off to you folks. This is a wealth of information, and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you, thank you.
I also wanted to ask about teaching licensure. If an American is licensed to teach in their state of residence, is this a significant plus for teaching abroad? Does the focus of the licensure matter (i.e. English vs Social Studies)? How is this viewed vs. an MA in TEFL? Equal or less?
Also, I would ultimately like to return to Asia. Japan's an option, but I think I would like to try South Korea, or maybe even Singapore. I realize it might be more of an issue in Singapore, because it's English speaking, but, again, would licensure in the States help me find a position?
Thanks again for letting me pick your brains. |
In some states, in order to teach ESL in the government indoctrination centers (public schools) you have to get an MA in TESL or applied linguistics (with an emphasis on ESL) in addition to both the certification in general education (e.g. elementary school, middle school, high school) and the ESL certification (the reason for the MA, of course, is because there simply aren't very many schools offering ESL as a bachelor's degree). But, anyway, having the government certification and at least two years of subsequent classroom experience using that certification will open the door to jobs in international schools. |
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perfectweapon
Joined: 12 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| Chancellor I do not have any silly notions, and if you had of read my remarks it clearly stated that I had not got any experience with on line or long distance, and I thanked the guys for the info. I do thank you for the impute that you supplied as some of us still live in the past. |
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Chancellor
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| perfectweapon wrote: |
| Chancellor I do not have any silly notions, and if you had of read my remarks it clearly stated that I had not got any experience with on line or long distance, and I thanked the guys for the info. I do thank you for the impute that you supplied as some of us still live in the past. |
To quote you: "but I still don�t think that on-line degrees and long distance are the same as going to university." |
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perfectweapon
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| And what did it say after that �As I haven�t got any experience dealing with any of the two I have to rely on what I am told by more experienced people". But we are getting off the topic, so lets get back on it again as we could go back and forward on this. Thank you for your valuable impute and enlightenment. |
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Chancellor
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| perfectweapon wrote: |
| And what did it say after that �As I haven�t got any experience dealing with any of the two I have to rely on what I am told by more experienced people". But we are getting off the topic, so lets get back on it again as we could go back and forward on this. Thank you for your valuable impute and enlightenment. |
Yes, getting back to the subject at hand...
In some states, in order to teach ESL in the government indoctrination centers (public schools) you have to get an MA in TESL or applied linguistics (with an emphasis on ESL) in addition to both the certification in general education (e.g. elementary school, middle school, high school) and the ESL certification (the reason for the MA, of course, is because there simply aren't very many schools offering ESL as a bachelor's degree). But, anyway, having the government certification and at least two years of subsequent classroom experience using that certification will open the door to jobs in international schools (e.g. schools that use the IBO curriculum). |
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