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Ecuador Questions - CELTA versus SIT, finding work etc
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just_a_mirage



Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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Location: ecuador

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The paperwork required for anything here, is outrageous and incredible. I was getting married here with a divorce behind me. I got all of my documents apostilled as requested. Comes the day I was to get married in the civil ceremony, and when we arrived at the Registro Civil, they rejected the application because the judge who presided over my divorce had not signed it. I had a notorized apostilled copy of the divorce papers, from the state of California and still they would not accept it because the judge hadnt signed it. I explained that the judge could not sign it, because he was indeed ...dead. I was told sorry..we cant help you. So I then pulled out a notorized paper from the U.S. consulate stating my marital status, and they decided that with that, and a $150 dollar "gift" they could help me after all. It just takes patience and perserverance, and the realization that requirements can change on a daily basis. I feel for you, and hope you get what you need soon. Smile
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to thread jack, but this is certainly relevant to life in Ecuador-

When did you get married, just_a_mirage?

When I got married here, two months ago, it was about as smooth as could be. Cost six bucks and not a hint of corruption.

Getting it sealed signed stamped apostilled etc for international use was a pain, but actually getting married under Ecuadorian law was a piece of cake.


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Justin
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just_a_mirage



Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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Location: ecuador

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Justin, I got married last year. And to be honest, that is the only time I have ever had a problem with corruption here. I actually had to city-hop to find a place that would marry us. The complication was that I had been divorced in the states. I had the official divorce papers from the state of California, notorized, with apostille, and everywhere we went, they wanted the judge's signature. My divorce took place back in 1989, and the judge died shortly after that. So it was a mess. I worked with another American who had a few problems getting married, but nothing significant. It was really a hassle because my visa was running out. I ended up getting my new visa stamped into my passport three days before the old one ran out.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Ecuador!

I do love it here, though there are some things that take getting used to.

I got married a couple of months ago, and had to gather a LOT of paperwork, but everything went smoothly. (The LOT of paperwork probably had to do with two foreigners, a yank and a brit, marrying in Ecuador.) It was a first time for us both though, so no divorce papers to deal with.


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Justin
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS- Did you consider just signing the judges name on the line?



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makaiside



Joined: 29 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Justin (and others),

Ecuador sounds awesome...I have a question. I have both and undergrad and law degree from US universities. I've taught before, and written extensively, but never have taken a TEFL course. Am I employable as-is, or is a TEFL course pretty much a requirement?

Thanks in advance
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Atlan Training



Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Posts: 76
Location: Spain

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Employment in Ecuador Reply with quote

Hi makaiside

If you mean to teach English as a Foreign Language, you need a CELTA or TESOL to get a good job. The market is changing now in Ecuador since Southern Cross and SIT have been putting many more qualified teachers in the market. Yes, come to Ecuador!
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rlloydevans



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 26
Location: Guayaquil, Ecuador

PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello makaiside

Do you want to teach ESL or teach something in English? The reason I ask is that with your degrees there are a lot of universities in Quito, Cuenca, Riobamba and Guayaquil who hire native-English professors. Espiritu Santo, here in Guayaquil is always looking for some. They have even asked me to teach some classes, and I only have a BA
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makaiside



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi...yes, I meant teaching English, although I'm certainly open to law and other things as well.

I was in Prague for a while and the lack of a TEFL cert was no barrier there because there were so many lawyers/law firms/law professors that needed someone to teach/help edit in English. I should have been clearer in my original post, sorry.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's your Spanish? If it's good, legal editing and things of that nature may be available. If not, much less likely.

THough the market is changing, there are still plenty of places you could find work without a certificate, but I agree with Jaem- the best, legal, visa sponsoring jobs tend to want a cert.

And this is one thing that's going to come up whatever you decide- you need your employer to sponsor a visa if you're intending to be here for any length of time.

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Justin
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