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zaazia
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: Single woman in Saudi Arabia. |
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I'm a single woman from the UK and I've been offered a job in Riyadh. I'm happy with the package given but I'm concerned about what it is like as a single woman in Saudi Arabia.
The institution said that I don't need to travel with a male relative. I contacted the Saudi embassy regarding this and they said that I need authorisation from the Foreign Office to travel alone.
I'd like to hear from women who have travelled alone to Saudi Arabia for work. Did you have problems travelling alone?
I'd also like to hear from single women currently living in Saudi Arabia.
What is life like day to day? Can I travel freely, socialise etc.
I read somewhere on the internet that single women are viewed with suspicion. |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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As someone who's been living as a single woman in Riyadh for several years, I can tell you that life here is eminently 'doable'. Whether it's enjoyable really depends on you. As a single woman you have to be independent, resourceful and prepared to do your own thing. Social life is out there, but you have to go and look for it. Actually, that's true for all expats in KSA, but especially for single women.
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I contacted the Saudi embassy regarding this and they said that I need authorisation from the Foreign Office to travel alone. |
What do the embassy know eh? Single women can and do come here alone all the time. You will need a representative of your employer to meet you at the airport upon arrival - certainly for the first visit and probably for subsequent arrivals too. Once in the Kingdom, getting around as a single woman is surprisingly easy. Women can and do take taxis, intercity planes and buses, and even walk around alone, despite what you may have heard or read. You may need a letter from your employer if you want to check into a hotel though, even if it's no longer strictly necessary.
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I read somewhere on the internet that single women are viewed with suspicion. |
Hmmmm..... yes and no. More conservative Saudis (which is to say the majority) don't really have any concept of 'single women' and do consider it at the very least strange that a woman over the age of 25 or so should choose not to marry. Saudi women almost always take an 'escort' with them when they go outside the home. No need for you to do the same, but as a woman on your own you may be conspicuous in some areas - although in shopping centres, the main place of interest in Saudi cities, you wont' attract a second glance.
Also, most Saudis now are used to the weird ways of foreigners, and know that some foreign women do have this bizarre habit of not getting married or even travelling/living without their husbands. Any negative attention you get will be very low key - in several years of living here, I can't recall any genuinely unpleasant incidents which I could attribuite to being a single woman. |
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zaazia
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject: Thanks! |
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Thank you for your reply. |
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sugardaddy22
Joined: 14 Jun 2009 Posts: 11 Location: Al Ain
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well;
Not being a single woman living in the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia, I cannot advise you.
But just , jugding from these posts..life there must be wonderful!
Why, these women of tremendous British eduction do seem to "strike out"..and make the world a far better place.
Then a again, I am not a British Subject making a lot of money in the Persian Gulf, therefore, I cannot adequately comment .
I hope this has helped you. |
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lorimichele
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Posts: 5 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Zaazia,
As you posted this back in June, I was just wondering, did you accept the position? If so, how is everything going?
I just received an offer in Riyadh and would like to hear more from a single woman living there. Any information you have would be great. What were the most pressing issues when you first got there? What are the things you wish you had known before you left home?
Hope all is well no matter where you ended up! |
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lorimichele
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Posts: 5 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Zaazia,
You posted this back in June. Did you accept the position? If so, how is everything going?
I just received an offer in Riyadh and would like to hear more from a single woman living there. Any information you have would be great. Having only been there for a short time, what were the most pressing issues when you first got there? What are the things you wish you had known before you got there?
Hope all is well no matter where you ended up! |
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desert_traveller
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: |
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i am all too painfully aware how much im not qualified to contribute to this thread but ... i still am
its kinda funny to talk about 'single women' as if it was some sort of homogenous mass of identical individuals, even though there are some regulations and conventions that apply to this group of ladies
their 'singleness' is just one of their several characteristics and just because they are all single it doesnt mean that they are similar in any other ways, although it doesnt mean that they are not, either
what makes a difference in the first place is HOW these ladies will respond to the conditions in the ksa and not WHAT they are going to respond to, and, at least in my limited life experience, that HOW will depend on the individual no matter where they go. moaners will moan, happy people will be happy (even though it is quite a raw distinction, yes, i know)
it is true, though, that saudi arabia will polarize these two groups of people to the extreme
and forgive me for posting for my own amusement as much as for other readers benefit |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Dear desert_traveller,
Adaption to Saudi primarily depends on two things:
Who YOU are (as you mentioned)
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Whom you work for
Both are important. Even a person with a "Polyanna" attitude (i.e. happy, happy, optimistic) is highly unlikely to remain that way long is s/he works for an unscrupulous, dishonest employer that mistreats his employees.
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John |
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desert_traveller
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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hello john
i couldnt agree with you more
my only comment would be that what you wrote is not strictly connected to the topic of 'single ladies in the kingdom'. an 'unscrupulous, dishonest employer that mistreats his employees' would probably put off single ladies AND everybody else - so it is not something that only single ladies should carefully consider
i may be arguing only for the sake of arguing, though
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Agree with both John and Desert traveller.
Some single women love it here, others hate it. Most are somewhere in between. A bit like everyone who comes here really - male, female, married or single. Sure, there are specific circumstances that pertain to single women but the impact of these restrictions varies quite widely depending on a) your personality and b) your circumstances. So an extrovert, party-loving young woman would likely be miserable if cooped up in a women-only building with a strict curfew. However, put the same woman on a compound and she might find life in KSA quite delightful (yes really). |
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Sheikh N Bake

Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Posts: 1307 Location: Dis ting of ours
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I bet VS would hate it here. (Correct me if I'm wrong VS.) Like me, she likes the ready independence of driving and, I believe, dislikes in the extreme (again like me) trying to flag a taxi in 120-degree heat and humidity. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I bet that Teta VS is unlike you, both physiologically and mentally! (Correct me if I'm wrong VS ).
Unlike you, she does not smoke Cuban cigars 1 km long, and she is an anti-smoking campaigner (correct me VS if I am wrong ) and, I think, unlike you, she is not married to a Chinese.
Now, shoot me if you want!  |
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bow and arrow
Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 3 Location: under the weather
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I am in the same situation as you, so I'd be glad if anyone had some additional imput on the subject. Also, is their an expat community in the King Saud Prep School? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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If you try a search on this topic of women in Saudi, you will find that it has been discussed many times. Be sure to choose "search for all terms" to limit your result. You can also do a search for your employer.
VS
(sorry missed this thread before... in response to SnB, not being able to drive was really a deal killer for me. I spent a couple months in the UAE and Kuwait dealing with the taxi in the heat issue... and would never have done it again. Add to that having to conform to a stricter dress code confirmed my negative decision.) |
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Kipling

Joined: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 371 Location: ...Ah Mrs K peel me a grape!!!....and have one yourself!!!!
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: I am just the messenger.. no no!!! Please don't SHOOooo....! |
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Mr Bond!!!!!
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Now, shoot me if you want!!!
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I really don't think this is an invitation that should be bandied about willy nilly..... I have this awful vision of certain posters stocking up on ammo and oiling their AK47s or more likely a saturday night special.
My advice is to lay low, underground if possible.
Don't delay!
Says Mr K
For Rent: One Cave, Open Plan, Secure, Safe and Bullet Proof. Drone Resistant. Free Camels Milk with 1st Months rent.
Good neighbourhood.
For refs contact Mr O B Laden Central Helmand 1212 |
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