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Easiest place to land a job for a recent graduate

 
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vgchiang



Joined: 18 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject: Easiest place to land a job for a recent graduate Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

I've had my sights on teaching in specific areas of China, but given my lack of experience and my Chinese face, I am having a hard time getting a job. I just graduated from college 3 months ago, so companies there don't even want to deal with helping me obtain a visa.

My first choice was China only because I wanted to immerse myself in the land of my ancestors, and improve my Chinese speaking abilities. But that could always wait until I've had more teaching experience under my belt. Plus I want leave the U.S. asap, as there's no time to waste to get my life going!

I know that it's pretty tough getting a decent job in Japan too, but I was wondering if it's tough ANYWHERE in the country, or just the big cities. I think I can sway either way - big cities or small cities. As long as I can experience the culture, save $400.00 each month to pay off my student loans, and have a decent living with my own apartment, I am content. If I could live in a smaller city, but be within a few hours distance on train from big cities like Tokyo and Kyoto, I'd be very happy.

Are their cities, specific schools, websites that you can recommend to me? I've done some research on cities but research can only get me so far. I'd like to hear the opinions of people who have been to Japan. Thanks!!
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the J forum. You must realize that you sit on the bottom of the heap because of your lack of experience (no offense), and that there are 2 routes you can take to get a job here:

come with US$4000-5000 in your pocket to shop around for 2 months or so (at the right time), or what is more likely considering you have student loans is that you should look into places that hire from outside Japan.

There aren't all that many, and competition is usually high, but what else is new?

Sites to look at abound:
www.eslcafe.com
www.eltnews.com
www.gaijinpot.com
www.ohayosensei.com
http://www.aeonet.com/
http://www.geoscareer.com/
http://www.berlitz.co.jp/english/
http://www.japanbound.com/index.html
www.altia-jp.com
http://www.chuoh.co.jp/english/index.shtml
http://www.jobsinjapan.com/jobs/teaching.html#Sophia
http://www.fukuoka-now.com/forums/forum.php?forum=tech
http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/
http://www.japanjoblink.com/japan/index.asp
http://www.kansaiscene.com/classifieds.shtml
www.gethiroshima.com
There are others, and many overlap with postings.

There ya go.
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Deep Thirteen



Joined: 23 May 2009
Posts: 39
Location: East Sea Japan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello friend. First, don't be too discouraged (sounds like you aren't) about your looks in regards to getting employed in Japan. I'm of Asian descent also and had worries about getting a sniff from anywhere, but found employment recently. I've researched about the situation in China and it sounds more discriminatory than Japan in some regards.

Do your research and plan your attack schedule. If you are serious about it something should come up.

Have a fall back plan though. Korea is another place I researched and was prepared to do.
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vgchiang



Joined: 18 Dec 2009
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
Welcome to the J forum. You must realize that you sit on the bottom of the heap because of your lack of experience (no offense), and that there are 2 routes you can take to get a job here:

come with US$4000-5000 in your pocket to shop around for 2 months or so (at the right time), or what is more likely considering you have student loans is that you should look into places that hire from outside Japan.

There aren't all that many, and competition is usually high, but what else is new?

Sites to look at abound:
www.eslcafe.com
www.eltnews.com
www.gaijinpot.com
www.ohayosensei.com
http://www.aeonet.com/
http://www.geoscareer.com/
http://www.berlitz.co.jp/english/
http://www.japanbound.com/index.html
www.altia-jp.com
http://www.chuoh.co.jp/english/index.shtml
http://www.jobsinjapan.com/jobs/teaching.html#Sophia
http://www.fukuoka-now.com/forums/forum.php?forum=tech
http://www.teaching-english-in-japan.net/
http://www.japanjoblink.com/japan/index.asp
http://www.kansaiscene.com/classifieds.shtml
www.gethiroshima.com
There are others, and many overlap with postings.

There ya go.


No offense taken! It makes sense that I'm at the bottom. I definitely don't have that kind of cash to spend, so you're right that option will not work for me. Thanks for the huge list of websites, it is incredibly helpful! I'll keep applying and hopefully get a company to bite.



Deep Thirteen: Thanks for the support! In my research as well, China seems to be more discriminatory- so here I am on this forum expanding my search criteria. If after a while I don't get anything in China or Japan, I will probably look into Korea. However, all the talk about the racism there definitely makes me a bit hesitant
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cangel



Joined: 12 May 2003
Posts: 74
Location: Jeonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To get a job in Asia you need a degree and a pulse.
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vgchiang



Joined: 18 Dec 2009
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangel wrote:
To get a job in Asia you need a degree and a pulse.


Unfortunately for me, having those qualifications doesn't make it easy enough to get a job in China or Japan Sad
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cangel



Joined: 12 May 2003
Posts: 74
Location: Jeonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can imagine Japan being the most difficult place in Asia to get a job. I did 3 years as a JET and then 3 years at an eikaiwa in Japan. The market is saturated particularly after the demise of Nova.

I have never attempted to get a job in China but I have plenty of friends who have worked there. The problem isn't getting a job it's getting a good job - at least that's what I have heard.

If you have specifics as to getting a job in Asia e.g. specific location, specific salary, housing conditions etc., then yes, finding a job can be difficult.

Good luck.
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fat_chris



Joined: 10 Sep 2003
Posts: 3198
Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangel wrote:
I have never attempted to get a job in China but I have plenty of friends who have worked there. The problem isn't getting a job it's getting a good job - at least that's what I have heard.


That's very true.

Regards,
fat_chris
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