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Irish Blood English Heart

Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 256 Location: Gosforth, The United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: Those Crazy Yanks |
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lol, just been sent an article in the post. While I dont think the girl should have been doing what she was doing, to arrest someone for paedophilia for having pictures of herself naked is a bit too far dont you think? LMAO
Girl charged with posting nude photos on Internet
By The Tribune-Review
Saturday, March 27, 2004
A 15-year-old Latrobe girl has been arrested for allegedly taking sexually explicit photos of herself and posting them on the Internet.
State police at Greensburg said the girl took photos of herself in various states of undress and performed a variety of sexual acts. She then sent them to people she met in chat rooms on the Internet.
The computer was seized by police, who conducted a forensic investigation and found dozens of photographs of the juvenile stored on the hard drive. The investigation is continuing as state police try to identify all the people who received photos from the girl.
Police said the girl was charged with possession and dissemination of child pornography. A hearing date has not been set. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:22 pm Post subject: The law is an a s s |
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Dear Irish Blood English Heart,
Ah, but who ever said the law had to make sense? In many places, suicide is considered a crime - though it must be hard to prosecute those who successfully carry it out.
Regards,
John |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think the crime was attempted suciide. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: Dead right |
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Dear Stephen Jones,
Ah, that takes a load off my mind. Success should never be punished - only failure.
Regards,
John |
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Lanza-Armonia

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 525 Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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The girl had pictures of herself and she's been charged with child po-rno? That is pathetic!
If she is going to be told off by anyone, it should be the parents. The girl was just expressing herself and all that cra-p.
I can't believe those 'CRAZY YANKS' actually think......oh, feck it, nevermind...
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grahamb

Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:34 pm Post subject: Crazy colonials? |
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It's easy to snipe at dem yanks, but who elected "President" Blair? |
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Irish Blood English Heart

Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 256 Location: Gosforth, The United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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lol not me I voted Liberal Democrat.
Still its nearly as bad here, every day one of ours newspapers (esp the bestelling sun or daily mail) has a scare story about asylum seekers or paedo's. The world we live in is crazy I swear. |
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Sara Avalon

Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 254 Location: On the Prowl
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I don't see how this is crazy at all... The law states that child porno cannot exist or be distributed.. children who contribute to it have to follow the rules too and be judged by the same laws as everyone else, regardless if it's their picture or someone elses. It seems odd, but the girl was a minor and she should recognize that she has to be held accountable for her actions.
Where the heck are the parents in this picture? If your daughter's stripping on camera there's definitely something up and it has nothing to do with nudity. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Sara. If you want my opinion, something weird happens here in Japan. Juvenile girls hook up via Internet sites with much older men for sex or similar satisfaction. They either get paid cash or lavish gifts. When some notable man is caught at this, he gets punished (as he should), but nothing happens to the girls. Hmmm. |
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SueH
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sara Avalon wrote: |
children who contribute to it have to follow the rules too and be judged by the same laws as everyone else, regardless if it's their picture or someone elses. It seems odd, but the girl was a minor and she should recognize that she has to be held accountable for her actions.
Where the heck are the parents in this picture? If your daughter's stripping on camera there's definitely something up and it has nothing to do with nudity. |
er.. no, we still make allowances for minors (at least in this country) and the stupidity and experimentation of youth, not to mention the fact that in my personal experience minors are often groomed by controlling adults into behaviour we might consider illegal.
As for parents, I've known examples where doting (and concerned, responsible) parents are completely oblivious to the internet behaviour of their offsping (although in the example I am thinking of, no longer legally a minor). Something 'may be up', but language such as that is a bit too vague to help our understanding of the situation. |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Good point Sue.
'The experimentation of youth'
How many of you lost your virginity before you were 16? Should you have been punished for it? |
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FGT

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 762 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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15 year old girl [technically a minor but..] took sexually explicit pictures of herself [did she actually take the pictures? how does she know what to take?] and posted them on the Net [Why? How did she know where to post them?]
I think this is a lot more complicated than it first appears.
It would appear that she is sexually aware - pictures to take, places to publish. How come? Who introduced her to this environment? Someone is guilty (parents of negligence, perhaps. Possibly even of abuse. A paedophile maybe, grooming her for stardom. Someone taught her something which shouldn't be taught). However, she is also guilty according to the law. Maybe by prosecuting her, the real culprit will be brought to light, and the girl will truly get what she deserves - counselling! |
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Wolf

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 1245 Location: Middle Earth
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:14 am Post subject: |
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dmb wrote: |
How many of you lost your virginity before you were 16? Should you have been punished for it? |
Isn't having a private relationship a rather different issue form the publication of sexually explicit material featuring herself?
I'm pretty sure that she wouldn't be able to sell such pictures to a magazine. And everyone seems okay with such laws. If a country has laws prohibiting the publication (even self-publciation) in print of sexually explicit material concerning minors, then I can see why they might want a law about publication (even self publication) of similar material on the internet. It'd be harder to enforce, but I can understant it. The "stupidity and experementation of youth" often leads teens to speed, drink and drive, indulge in narcotics, etc. If they have to face up to traffic laws, etc, then I don't see why they ought to get a special "get out of trouble free" pass for internet laws.
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15 year old girl [technically a minor but..] took sexually explicit pictures of herself [did she actually take the pictures? how does she know what to take?] and posted them on the Net [Why? How did she know where to post them?] |
FGT, there are a lot of net-savvy teenagers out there who know how to use a digital camera. As to knowing "what to take," again as a former 15 year old myself, I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, teenagers know a turn-on from a turn-off.
Why? Good question. Attention? $$$? Some desire for self expression? |
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CountryClub
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 46 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Can someone explain to me how it is that she isn't consider old enough or mature enough to disseminate naughty pictures of herself but she is considered old enough and mature enough to be held accountable for disseminating naughty pictures of herself? I find the whole situtation sad and hope she gets the help she needs and by that I don't mean criminal charges. |
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Belmont
Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 5:13 am Post subject: so what did she look like? |
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No one has mentioned the girl's "assets". Did she expose something of "aesthetic value" or....uh, is she a "blight on the landscape"? Also, I'm with the previous poster here--saying that this girl knew exactly what she was doing. Punish her, not the parents or the recipients of her silliness.  |
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