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Related bacc. and lots of experience-job opportunities?

 
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heffersnork



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Related bacc. and lots of experience-job opportunities? Reply with quote

I have 17 years of esl experience with private companies, my own contracts and, for the last 13 years, working with a school board on courses outside the minister of education. I have developed programs and trained teachers. I have a bacc. in French as a second language with many didactic(teaching languages) and English grammar courses mixed in. I am a native speaker (Canadian with dual American nationality) and can teach basic French.
What are my chances for a good-paying job overseas? I don't want to work with a lot of newbies; I'm a serious, professional teacher just without the papers to prove it
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duder_1



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, what do you consider a good-paying job?

I have no doubt you could find work in many parts of the world based on the qualifications you describe, but it might benefit you to invest in a TEFL certification or other additional education depending on the region or specific job/pay scale you are looking for.
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runthegauntlet



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Related bacc. and lots of experience-job opportunities? Reply with quote

heffersnork wrote:

What are my chances for a good-paying job overseas? I don't want to work with a lot of newbies; I'm a serious, professional teacher just without the papers to prove it


Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on perspective), papers are often the name of the game in any field.

Without being certified, it sounds like the international schools are out. With such a resume, perhaps a CELTA/DELTA would appeal? Then you could move into management/curriculum creation, etc. in many areas of the world. Of course, you'd still be working with 'newbies', but they'd have to do what you say... Very Happy
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without the papers to prove it? You have the experience and a degree. Plenty enough there. Don't sell yourself short.

Where did you plan to go?
What do you consider "good-paying"?
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heffersnork



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: CELTA Reply with quote

Looked at CELTA, I have already done many/most of the courses necessary to be a teacher here in Quebec. I didn't finish because:I was offered a great opportunity without it, I don't want to teach kids, the rules changed here and they want me to redo all my education courses in English in order to teach English...if I want to teach French they now want me to do a bacc. in French, not in French as a second language. Blah, blah.
I believe I could teach CELTA. I'd have to move/invest to do a TEFL degree.
I'm looking for a couple of years abroad for an interesting, cultural exchange. As per pay, I'd like to break-even after a couple of years, a nice working environment will be more important. I make 50$ cnd here, I don't really expect that elsewhere. I want to avoid some of the nightmare contracts I hear about on this forum.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOu've got tons of experience, you just need qualifications. Even if it does take a while, it's worth it to go back to school.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: CELTA Reply with quote

heffersnork wrote:
Looked at CELTA, I have already done many/most of the courses necessary to be a teacher here in Quebec. I didn't finish because:I was offered a great opportunity without it, I don't want to teach kids, the rules changed here and they want me to redo all my education courses in English in order to teach English...if I want to teach French they now want me to do a bacc. in French, not in French as a second language. Blah, blah.
I believe I could teach CELTA. I'd have to move/invest to do a TEFL degree.
I'm looking for a couple of years abroad for an interesting, cultural exchange. As per pay, I'd like to break-even after a couple of years, a nice working environment will be more important. I make 50$ cnd here, I don't really expect that elsewhere. I want to avoid some of the nightmare contracts I hear about on this forum.


Sorry, I don't have any advice except to say I'm just as pissed off at the education ministry in Quebec! The rules are ridiculous. My *five* year degree with a TESL concentration in British Columbia and one year teaching practicum isn't good enough to enter the teacher's certification program, they said I still need to do an addition 3-4 years at McGill Rolling Eyes Yet they cry for ESL teachers and have to use the PE or Physics instructor Rolling Eyes

Good luck in your job search! MA's are usually required in the Middle East but perhaps you should check that out and you may find an exception.
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heffersnork



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the encouragement folks! I'll see what I can do/get. Heading more towards an early retirement than back to school (Quebec has turned me off education, but my beau is here)
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