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scot47

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tacomaboywa

Joined: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 194 Location: The Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: |
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It would be a good step forward. Let's just hope they do it in a sort of logical way.
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Unemployment benefit |
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Well, Uncle Scott, let's see what the unemployed Saudi youths say:
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"As many as 66 percent of these unemployed youths believe the presence of a large number of expatriates is the main reason for their unemployment. There are more than seven million guest workers in the Kingdom. " |
Now, the question is:
Do you think an 'unemployed' Saudi accepts to take a job as a vegetable seller, car mechanic, shop assistant, petrol station worker, or a hotel garcon? The majority of Saudi youths want job in an air-conditioned office, equipped with a small kitchenette and a Banghali/Philipino to server them tea, 'fool' and tamis in the morning, white coffee with Zangabeel and camel milk in the afternoon, and clean their cars late afternoon!!
These boys do not have real 'unemployemnt', it is their minds which need some calibration to adjust their definiton of 'unemployement'!
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"Forty-seven percent of them believe that the number of youths graduating from Saudi universities and colleges is greater than the number of available jobs |
Well, this is not accurate. There are plenty of available jobs in the Magic Kingdom, it is the youths which do not want them!
Uncle Scott, now the ball is in your camp, discuss!  |
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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We need an extensive programme of "re-education". They must be trained to expect no more than the Bengalis get ! |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
We need an extensive programme of "re-education". They must be trained to expect no more than the Bengalis get ! |
I think this is a part of your job, Uncle Scott! Try to teach your Saudi students that they are not better than the Bangalis and Philipino, and tell them that God does not look to their faces but to their hearts and good deeds!
Just explain to them in plain simple form of English without any grammatical complications!
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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They all want a car. How many Bengalis - in KSA or Bengal have a car ? |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Dear 007,
"Just explain to them in plain simple form of English without any grammatical complications!"
It's not the "grammatical complications" that would be the problem. It's the theological, metaphysical ones, and the resulting social behavior/attitude
changes that would have to ensue.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Unemployment benefit |
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scot47 wrote: |
A story that reveals that KSA may be reluctantly joining the rest of the "developed world" |
Perhaps they could get the US to join that crowd. We pay no money to our High School or University graduates who can't find a job.
That would be considered.... gasp... Socialism...
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think you may already have that. Didn't they just take over the banks ? |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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No, but they should have... they just handed them a bunch of newly printed money and told them to have fun giving themselves bonuses or whatever.
They did sort of take over GM...
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: |
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C'mon. In both the US and the Kingdom, the kids have been 'taught' by their parents that they're worth......
well, more than they're worth
unless they're willing to DO SOMETHING for it all.
Pampered babies. (Ok, I'm sour. My parents lived through the Great Depression and demanded a lot more from us. But as I've aged, I've decided this was more a gift than anything else they could have given us).
My Saudi students are pampered babies at the same level as the pampered American kids. It's simply not good for any of them. |
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elephant_man
Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
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I think this falls in line with the annual debate of permitting women to drive in KSA.
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7atetan
Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 93 Location: Not in the Mediterranean Sea
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
... My Saudi students are pampered babies at the same level as the pampered American kids. It's simply not good for any of them. |
Except American kids are encouraged to get work experience as early as possible (do paper rounds) and do summer jobs to earn extra pocket money (car wash, McDonald's...). A Saudi, or any Gulf Arab with the exception of some Omanis, would never do either because it is, of course, beneath them.
Let's not relativize. The American and Saudi work ethic and attitude to life are light years apart. |
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freesoul
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think that is actually a bit of good news for non-saudi arabs who will find some more vacancies that Saudi youths won�t take simply because they secure the pocket money they need for their fancy cars oil. |
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scot47

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Saudis can work when given the opportunity and the motivation. Look at the banks. At least in the front line most of the employees you see are locals.
Of course the salaries are a bit higher than the 1500 SR monthly minimum wage now being discussed for Saudi nationals. |
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