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bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

Sorry to anyone who replied to this post, I've altered it so the original letter I included in the first post isnt able to be found. It looks like I will have a chance at the job I wanted after all. All has been sorted.

Citizenkane · Joined: 14 Jun 2009 Posts: 234 Location: Xanadu

Silly lady. How does she suppose you got an MA without getting a BA?

Would it be worth getting a letter from your uni and sending that to her? Or is she too obtuse to understand that (going from the emails, I would say probably).

Neil McBeath · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 277 Location: Saudi Arabia

Bulgogiboy,

You have hit the downside of Scotlands having its own education system.

The four-year Scottish Masters is widely misunderstood, as is the Oxbridge habit of taking a first degree, swearing not to teach at an institution that does not exist, paying a lump sum and receiving an MA (Oxon) or MA (Cantab).

While we are at it., back in the late 1960s, neither London University nor the University of Warwick would accept Scottish 'H' Grades. They wanted 'A' Levels.

So BAE are not alone.

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

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scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The ignorance of some English clerk at Preston Aerodrome should not surprise any of us. How many people know that the first degree in Arts/Humanities from the 4 ancient universities in Scotland is an MA ?

Interestingly enough when I was first recruited for KSA in 1970, the Saudi Arabian Educational Attache in London was well aware of the situation.

Maybe the Saudis know things that are beyond the ken of our Southern neighbours ?

boundforsaudi · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 243

Ha! I thought I was the only one. I applied every year for about five years and always got immediate boilerplate rejections. Finally, I crafted an obsequious inquiry, pointing out that the BA/MA in English/ESL and experience clearly listed on my CV far exceeded the requirements. Don't hold me to this, because I don't remember exactly, but she answered something like my MA was unacceptable because it did not have "ESL" on the face of the diploma. So I told her to just look at my transcripts and had my college write her to explain that my MA was indeed in ESL and whether that was on the face of the diploma was not important. At the time I think I was approaching the age of 55. She wrote back something like oh, ok, but now you are too old. I have this image of her sitting there with a magazine, a nail file, chewing gum....

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

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johnslat · Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject:

Dear bulgogiboy,

Never mind the first or second degree, these people are giving you the third degree. Smile

Regards,
John

007 · Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject:

Well, why the Scottish education system does not replace the MA with BA as other British universities? Is it because the Scottish, like Uncle Scott Laughing

, want to preserve the tradition of the papal bull (in which the bishop of Glasgow, obtained from Pope Nicholas V in 1451).

"If anyone shall presume to attempt this, let them know that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God, and of the blessed apostles Peter and Paul."
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=150077&sectioncode=26

Uncle Scott, what do you think? Should the Scottish MA be abolished and replaced with the BA of her majesty the Queen? Laughing

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

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scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Why go in for TEFLology? You would be better taking up Window Cleaning. I hear that bartending can be a fulfilling career. Plumbing ?

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