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Visa for Thailand... FYI

 
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Knexus



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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Location: Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:55 am    Post subject: Visa for Thailand... FYI Reply with quote

Just a heads up...

If you have a job in Thailand ready for you, then you only need the three month non-imm B visa. If the embassy office/officer you work with tries to get you to buy the $175 multiple entry, one year visa insist on the $65 3 month one.

With either visa, when you arrive the NP will stamp you in for 3 months. During that time you should get a Work Permit which cancels out your visa. Having a multiple entry visa that is good for one year is thus unnecessary.

Best of luck!
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MaiPenRai



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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Location: BKK

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Thai Visa and work permits Reply with quote

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During that time you should get a Work Permit which cancels out your visa.


A work permit does NOT cancel your Non-Immigrant Visa. Visas allow you to be in a country. The work permit allows you to work. In order to get a work permit in Thailand, you need a Non-Immigrant B Visa (Non-IMM O if you are married). Non-Imm B Visas are good for 90 days. That time is allowed in order to process the paperwork for a work permit.

Step 1 - Get Non-Immigrant B Visa (outside Thailand from Thai Embassy or Consulate)
Step 2 - Get work permit (in Thailand at Labour Office)
NOTE - Your work permit is "attached" to your Visa and it will expire at the same time as you Visa.
Step 3 - EXTEND your Non-Imm B Visa (usually up to 1 year, at Immigration Office in Thailand)
Step 4 - EXTEND your work permit to match your new Visa extension (in Thailand at Labour Office).

NOTE: Once you leave the country your current Visa is cancelled along with your work permit as it is "attached" to your current Visa (You can get a Re-Entry Stamp at Immigration in Bangkok which allows you to leave the country and KEEP your current Visa and work permit).


Multiple entries are therefore irrelevant if you have a work permit and 1 year extension.

To my knowledge, there is no such thing as an INITIAL 1 YEAR Non-Immigrant B Visa. It is possible to get a MULTIPLE ENTRY Non-Immigrant B Visa, BUT you will have to leave the country every 90 days in order to "activate" another 90 day entry.

A multiple entry Non-Immigrant B Visa can be valuable for some people if they are coming to Thailand to search for work and may need more than 90 days to find work. As far as I know, embassies or consulates should not granting Non-Imm B Visas to people without current job offers, there are many that will do this because it is more money for them. (Hull-UK, Houston-USA, Brisbane-Aus).

Probably a bit confusing for anyone new to Thailand, but a good school or company should sort all of this out for you. Anyone can feel free to PM if they have questions.

Good luck
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Knexus



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote

Thank you for clearing up the canceling part! You also sort of answered my question on why more and more teachers seem to be showing up with the multiple entry visa that is good for one year. I guess what gets canceled once you have your work permit is having to get a visa stamp every 90 days?

I asked to be given the appropriate visa since initially my school only told me to make sure to get a visa before I came to Thailand. I was then told by a Consular Office I needed the year long, multiple entry visa... It was soon after I arrived in Thailand that I was made aware I had basically been ripped off. The actual Embassy Office in Chicago said I should only have been given the one entry 3 month non-imm b visa.

I find the cafe to be a more expedient, efficient source of information then administrators under the influence of the Thai culture, haha.
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Pauleddy



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: 90 day Reply with quote

MPR is right, AFAIK.

Once you are settled in a job, a "good" school or uni will normally provide the paperwork for you to obtain a Non-Imm working visa. In my own case, this was bound to my contract. My annual contract started on 30 Sept, so my visa and WP were renewed then BY the HRM dept, altho' you may need to attend Immig with the HRM person. When I first started my job, it was on June 1, but annual contracts started in Sept---so I had a short contract first and paid again for visa after 4 mths. A "good" school or uni will pay yr visa and WP after 2 years or so--u have stayed faithful to them etc.

Note that the main Immig office for BKK has now moved from the cramped place in Suan Plu and is now at Changwattana, which is out near the old airport (Don Muang). For any normal or major visa stuff. Sadly, a taxi from town is over 200b to there.

You will normally need to do the 90 day reporting (a tiresome scam) with any "long-term" visa. This can be done at the one-stop shop (just moved to Chamchuri Square behind Chula FROM Lad Prao), but only takes 30 min. A GOOD SCHOOL will send the HRM guy to do this for you---you only need to fill out the TM 47 form. I was in there yesterday, and there were some teachers from a "bad" school who were doing by themselves. Some old-timers never started the 90 day process and say "don't bother"--but once you declare 90, you must keep doing it!

This will all sound like nonsense to newbs--but go to Thaivisa.com and check the real details. I have never professed to be the No 1 expert, but I have a few yrs here with this nonsense!

Eddy
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NigerianWhisper



Joined: 21 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 90 day Reply with quote

Pauleddy wrote:


You will normally need to do the 90 day reporting (a tiresome scam) with any "long-term" visa.


90 day reporting, as you know, is free. Why the reference to 'a tiresome scam'?

What scam?
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Knexus



Joined: 21 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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90 day reporting, as you know, is free. Why the reference to 'a tiresome scam'?


Maybe because it involves at least a bit of travel to go do? It's certainly one more stupid administrative distraction to keep up on.
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Pauleddy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was speaking from personal experience. Last time I reported, I was one day over the limit for the reporting period, due to illness. I showed proof, and a hospital appointment, but they still charged me the 2000b overstay fine. The attitude of the officer was arrogant and patronising.

The reporting is now done at Chamchuri Square or at the new HQ near Don Muang. Either place costs a hefty taxi fare from my area, seemingly for nothing, because the process is a two-minute admin wonder.

As the last poster says, a distraction. Sure, people need to have visas, but the 90 day thing is a nonsense. Typically small-minded, bureaucratic and pointless, IMO.

Eddy
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laconic



Joined: 23 May 2005
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Location: "When the Lord made me he made a ramblin man."

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not do it by mail?

It's possible.

Yes, even in Bangkok. Wink
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Pauleddy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:01 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Yep, I know. It's just that I have always done it the regular way, and I'm probably over-paranoid about not getting all the bits right!

Cheers anyway.
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littleone



Joined: 31 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooooooh, cheers for this!
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