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BigWally



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve_c wrote:

The OP may be interested in some actual test questions (taken from the practice test):

Q1. True or False -- Heavy motorcycles include common heavy motorcycles and big heavy motorcycles.

A1. False, of course. Everyone knows that "common heavy motorcycles" are heavy motorcycles, but "big heavy motorcycles" are not heavy motorcycles. Rolling Eyes


I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure the difference they are referring to, and probably not translating cleanly is as follows.

Common Heavy: up to 150cc
Big Heavy: over 150cc up to 250cc

Big Heavy are also allowed to drive on freeways/highways, whereas all other types are not.
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creztor



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think bikes that are higher than 500c are allowed on highways etc, anything less is still restricted to scooter "zones"?
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steve_c



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Wally: Thanks for clearing that up; undoubtedly the original Chinese makes sense.

I wholeheartedly agree with Wally's post (Why would you think that you can move to a different country and not follow the laws of that country?...The scooter license is so easy to get, that anyone who doesn't bother to take the time is just fulfilling the stereotype of the ignorant foreigner who shows up and thinks they are above the laws of the county.)

Just to play devil's advocate, though...some Taiwanese laws are regulary skirted by foreigners, which is by explained away by Taiwanese employers as standard business practice (such as teaching kindergarten, starting to teach before the work permit has been approved, underreporting of earnings, etc.). The thought is "that's the way things are done here," as you well know. I'm not saying it's right, but this line of thinking seems to extend into other areas that some may consider "bureaucratically unnecessary" such as scooter licensing.

Again, I agree with Wally and suggest that the OP stay as legal as possible. I myself was in a scooter accident with a car on New Year's Day. The guy in the car was on his way to his own wedding (!) and wasn't paying attention, while I was trying to ride with one hand while carrying something in the other, so we were both at fault. I'm thankful that I had the legally required license and insurance.
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zipper



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough - just clarifying.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigWally wrote:


I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure the difference they are referring to, and probably not translating cleanly is as follows.

Common Heavy: up to 150cc
Big Heavy: over 150cc up to 250cc



So far as I know up to 150 cc isn't considered heavy.
Heavy is anything over 250 cc isn't it? So Common Heavy would be 400 cc, 600 cc, 750 cc etc..So following my questionable logic Big Heavy would be very large displacement machines - like over a litre - maybe??

I must admit I'm guessing but that would make sense to me.
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LKJ



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edit

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LKJ



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

steve_c wrote:
Just to play devil's advocate, though...some Taiwanese laws are regulary skirted by foreigners, which is by explained away by Taiwanese employers as standard business practice (such as teaching kindergarten, starting to teach before the work permit has been approved, underreporting of earnings, etc.). The thought is "that's the way things are done here," as you well know. I'm not saying it's right, but this line of thinking seems to extend into other areas that some may consider "bureaucratically unnecessary" such as scooter licensing.


I can see your point but it only skirts the reality of the issue. In all the examples you've given there is still a price to pay if you get caught out. It's all about risk v's reward and we have these choices.

If you teach kindergaten or without a work permit you should accept you could be deported.
If you have undeclared tax you should accept being fined.
If you drive without a license and have a bad accident, (your fault or not) you should accept you'll have the proverbial book thrown at you.

Tp play devil's advocate in return, imagine your back home and a Taiwanese person that didn't have a license knocked over and killed somone in your family. What reasons or excuses would you accept from them to simply let them go on their merry way out of the country? Or would you and everyone in your community be looking for the biggest retribution and punishment possible?

So, again, I encourage people to think very carefully before doing what seems acceptable. Don't say you haven't been warned!

I hope this helps!
LKJ
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twice in fact...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW HERE

and no sense knowing everything without doing this right too
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