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Rooster_2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Well it's the official /non-official declaration of hours and pay right?
We've probably all experienced it.
School X pays you $60K for teaching 25 hours per week at $600 per hour
but they declare you as working only 14 hours for $300 per hour... |
Hahaha, really?
I won't ask.
She should call me back around noon, that's what she said she would do. |
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creztor
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Many schools do the trick of lying about your income to pay less tax. We now also have to pay 18% for the first 6 months and my January pay packet looked very small... |
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yamahuh
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Karaoke Hell
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Rooster_2006 wrote: |
| yamahuh wrote: |
Well it's the official /non-official declaration of hours and pay right?
We've probably all experienced it.
School X pays you $60K for teaching 25 hours per week at $600 per hour
but they declare you as working only 14 hours for $300 per hour... |
Hahaha, really?
I won't ask.
She should call me back around noon, that's what she said she would do. |
Best of luck - hope it all works out for ya!! |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| yamahuh wrote: |
| Rooster_2006 wrote: |
| yamahuh wrote: |
Well it's the official /non-official declaration of hours and pay right?
We've probably all experienced it.
School X pays you $60K for teaching 25 hours per week at $600 per hour
but they declare you as working only 14 hours for $300 per hour... |
Hahaha, really?
I won't ask.
She should call me back around noon, that's what she said she would do. |
Best of luck - hope it all works out for ya!! |
I just got a call from her subordinate, Betty. I'll e-mail my resume to her soon and we'll see what happens. |
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yamahuh
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Karaoke Hell
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Was her English atrocious??
When I was there, there was a manager called Betty who had the worst accent and most bizarre inflection and intonation I've ever heard. She was only there a short time and was 'let go' shortly before my wife and I left - I hope to god she's not back there again. |
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Rooster_2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| yamahuh wrote: |
Was her English atrocious??
When I was there, there was a manager called Betty who had the worst accent and most bizarre inflection and intonation I've ever heard. She was only there a short time and was 'let go' shortly before my wife and I left - I hope to god she's not back there again. |
Well, we may not be talking about the same Betty. I mean, think about how many Fannies and Cherries there are, and maybe this is just another Betty. This one had standard secretary-with-some-English English. I wouldn't have called it atrocious.
Hahahaha, speaking of people being "let go" (or quitting), my current school is now on Secretary #4 since I started working there less than five months ago. Therefore, I just call her "Number Four."  |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Many schools do the trick of lying about your income to pay less tax. We now also have to pay 18% for the first 6 months and my January pay packet looked very small... |
Why would you have to pay 18 percent in tax? I thought you have been in Taiwan for a while? |
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yamahuh
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:31 am Post subject: |
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You're falling behind the rest of the class JZ'er
New Taiwan Tax Rules for Foreigners
There has been a change to the tax law in Taiwan for foreign taxpayers. The change (as detailed on the government web site) from 2009 is as follows:
All foreign taxpayers who stay in the ROC less than 183 days in a calendar year are now non-resident. The old regulation �he or she stays for 183 days or more and continues to stay uninterrupted over the next year without leaving the ROC, he or she will continue to be treated as a resident�� has expired.
This is not good news as it means that for any teachers leaving Taiwan between Jan and June there will be no tax rebate and the tax rate will be 20%. It also means that teachers will now be charged 20% tax for all salary received between January and June. There will of course still be a rebate for teachers who stay longer than 183 days in the year.
Summary
From 2010. the tax rate for teachers is 18% for the first 183 days of every calendar year.
After 183 days (within the same calendar year) the rate will drop to approximately 6% or 10% for the remainder of the year.
At the end of each year, teachers who stayed in the country for at least 183 days (within the same calendar year) will be eligible for a good tax rebate on the tax paid in the first 183 days.
Please refer to Taiwan's Tax Admistration for updates or further information : www.ntat.gov.tw |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Well none of my bosses know about it. Until they find out it is irrelevant. |
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JZer
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| This statue is useless. Some bosses just pay taxes once a year at the end of the year. What will the government do it your boss only pays the correct amount for the entire year? |
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JZer
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| yamahuh wrote: |
You're falling behind the rest of the class JZ'er
New Taiwan Tax Rules for Foreigners
There has been a change to the tax law in Taiwan for foreign taxpayers. The change (as detailed on the government web site) from 2009 is as follows:
All foreign taxpayers who stay in the ROC less than 183 days in a calendar year are now non-resident. The old regulation �he or she stays for 183 days or more and continues to stay uninterrupted over the next year without leaving the ROC, he or she will continue to be treated as a resident�� has expired.
This is not good news as it means that for any teachers leaving Taiwan between Jan and June there will be no tax rebate and the tax rate will be 20%. It also means that teachers will now be charged 20% tax for all salary received between January and June. There will of course still be a rebate for teachers who stay longer than 183 days in the year.
Summary
From 2010. the tax rate for teachers is 18% for the first 183 days of every calendar year.
After 183 days (within the same calendar year) the rate will drop to approximately 6% or 10% for the remainder of the year.
At the end of each year, teachers who stayed in the country for at least 183 days (within the same calendar year) will be eligible for a good tax rebate on the tax paid in the first 183 days.
Please refer to Taiwan's Tax Admistration for updates or further information : www.ntat.gov.tw |
Could you provide the exact link? I have not found where it says to pay 18 percent in taxes every year. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| That's utterly ridiculous! I have to pay 20% taxes for the first half of EACH YEAR? On my pathetic little income? Jesus, that's socialism. And for people who like socialism, there's a certain country right across the straight which is rapidly becoming more lucrative and appealing... |
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:27 am Post subject: |
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It is now 18% guys Down 2% from last year. Easier to pick on the foreigners and make them pay tax since so few Taiwanese actually declare their income. |
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yamahuh
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: |
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http://www.reachtoteachrecruiting.com/taiwan-tax-rules.html
It's something you can negotiate.
We started a job last summer after having been in the country for 2 years and the head accountant told us that we would have to pay 18% tax for the first 6 months of our employment with his school as we hadn't paid nearly enough at our last place. I told him that was a deal breaker as our new boss had told us we'd be paying 'less than $2K' a month.
This guy was expecting us to pay about $13K.
We argued back and forth - him telling me it was the new rules and me telling him that we had to find a way around it or we would leave. Eventually he said that he would just underdeclare our earnings (as usual) but if we left early we'd be penalised by being forced to pay the difference between we what we should have paid and what we had actually paid.
Works for me. I pay $1350 on $68K.
Do the math - less than 2% tax on actual earnings
Rooster - don't sweat it.
If you get that job I helped you with I can guarantee that you won't be paying 18% tax - trust me on that one. I think we paid a total of $3K each off our last paycheque and that was all we paid in tax for the entire year...
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Rooster_2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I just did the math again and realized that under this new deal, I'm BETTER OFF.
This is because my current employer pays me 500 AFTER TAX. In other words, I get the same hourly pay and she has to pay more taxes (which will mean a bigger tax refund to me if I stay past June 30).
Haha, funny how that works...
On the other hand, she's an unethical liar, so she's probably been underpaying the whole time. |
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