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[USAMATHMAN]

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[veiledsentiments]

I have to say that the best choice would be to stay in math rather than EFL. Certainly there are many more EFL openings than math. But...

You say that you have a US teaching cert/license. Did you try any of the major international schools? I would keep my eyes on the websites of places like AUS, HCT, AU, UAEU... even SQU in Oman. How about AUC in Cairo? All of them should start posting next years openings. (or the year after you are done in Korea perhaps?) Will you be teaching math in Korea? You might also run into other jobs there... or tutoring?

One thing confuses me... won't getting an MA in TEFL just add a bunch more money to your education loans? I don't see switching fields being all that helpful... at either getting good jobs or paying off the debt.

VS

[boundforsaudi]

Any obsequious liberal who speaks English can fool an administrator into thinking he can teach it well. In spite of the fact that there are quickie certification courses in ESL, to be any good at it you really have to do an MA in ESL after a BA in English. There are thousands of unqualified ESL teachers with just CELTAs or DELTAs or fly-by-night MAs after a BA in business or something. They do get jobs, but I don't know how they sleep at night.

Do what you really know. Stick to math. You can get a high-paying job teaching high school math in the UAE with Teach Away. I wish I were in your shoes. You can't fake math.

[Never Ceased To Be Amazed]

Mis-post! My sincere apologies to those who insist that they don't exist...

NCTBA

[veiledsentiments]

I hadn't thought of Teachaway... didn't know that they were hiring for Math. Definitely look into that one USAmathman...

VS

[adorabilly]

[USAMATHMAN]

Thanks for the advice everyone. I really have no desire to teach ESL. Just interested in living in UAE and getting opportunity to teach and make good salary.

I did apply with HCT a few months ago and was given a verbal offer to teach mathematics. However, received an email from a higher level administrator saying that offer had been dropped and I was no longer being considered. No reason given. So, I am not sure if it would be profitable to apply again next year. What do you think?

I am 100% sure I would like to teach mathematics, but if an ESL opportunity arises I would be more than happy to take it.

I definitely don't want to get any more student loans.

Lots to think about. I also contemplated the idea of getting another MA in Mathematics and applying for a math content position at another university.

Thanks again. Information was very helpful.


USA

[scot47]

You can almost certainly get a Math Teaching job in one of the international schools in UAE or the Gulf. For Saudi Arabia there are lots of opportunities for those who are qualified as teachers in US or UK.

[misterkodak]

I'd look into some of the petroleum companies as well. They need Math Instructors in their training programs abroad. Even better, look into the Department of Defense Schools. Its a civil service (GS) job with all the perks of being in the military abroad without actually being in the military.

[johnslat]

Dear misterkodak,

If USAMATHMAN is soon off to South Korea and is interested in the DoD schools, this may be relevant:

"Interview. Interviews are normally scheduled annually and applicants are invited to interview with projected staffing needs in mind. Those applicants who are not interviewed will continue to receive consideration for vacant positions and, if needed, be interviewed by telephone. All expenses incurred with the interview are the responsibility of the applicant.

13. Local Candidates. Applicants who will be locally available may submit their applications before traveling to the overseas area. However, upon arrival they are required to update the application immediately with new contact information and a list of the specific schools for which employment consideration is requested."


When to Apply. Applicants are encouraged to apply by early January to be considered for the next school year. The annual deadline for applying may vary but it will be posted on the web."


http://www.dodea.edu/offices/hr/onlineapplication/requirements.htm

Regards,
John

[USAMATHMAN]

Thanks to all who replied.

To mr. slat,

Thanks for info. I took a look at DoDEA website and they have a few Math Positions in Italy, Japan, and South Korea. Pay starts at $57K which is a very generous salary. I will most likely apply for one of these positions and if DoDEA shows interest I could let them know of my current position in South Korea. Maybe something can be worked out.
Do you know if DoDEA teachers overseas have to pay taxes?

I think I'm going to go ahead and try teaching English in South Korea and hopefully by the end of the year I will have a math position secured. Italy sounds great, but I still would love to work in UAE.

Thanks again to all. You guys & gals are awesome!!!

[veiledsentiments]

[Sheikh N Bake]

Taxable, yes. But is it a permanent civil service job? In that case you'd get the nice government pension and other bennies if you stayed long enough.

[Le Petit Prince]

It occurs to me that some of the people spewing advice on these pages have not lived in this blessed part of the world for years.

Things do change my friends.

[johnslat]

Dear Le Petit Prince,

Much of the information posted here is with regard to US DoD schools. If that's what you're referring to, how is not having "lived in this blessed part of the world for years" at all relevant?

Regards,
John