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hawly
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: Jobs Requiring Official Diploma? |
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I recently graduated with degrees in History and Archaeology but our graduation ceremony isn't until June. According to the research I've done, I won't be able to obtain my diploma until the graduation ceremony.
So my questions are:
How do I apply for a job without my diploma? Are Official Transcripts acceptable?
If it helps I am applying to jobs in Korea and Japan.
Probably a stupid question but I haven't found a clear answer yet. Thank you for reading! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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1. Don't call it a diploma. If you graduated from college, call it a degree.
2. As for Japan, if you cannot provide the degree parchment itself or a certified copy. then get your school to provide a certified official letter stating you have graduated, and support that with sealed transcripts. |
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AjarnIam
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 95 Location: Thailand
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: |
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I've never understood why official transcripts aren't enough. |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Glenski--I always thought that "degree" meant the field you studied and the fact that you completed it to a certain level--BA, MA, whatever--and "diploma" just meant the actual piece of paper.
Anyway, back to the question... the schools that you're applying to will see that you're a recent graduate. If the admin staff have half a brain, they will realize that you don't yet have the paper and make allowances for you--possibly by accepting transcripts until you've got the correct documentation. This isn't an issue that should cost you a job.
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:11 am Post subject: |
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YOur graduation ceremony and getting your degree are two different things.
I finished in December and had my degree three weeks later. It should have been two, but with the holidays, things were slow.
Ask if you can get your degree before the ceremony. They don-t even give you your degree at the ceremony, so it might be possible. It never hurts to ask.
If it-s not possible, then they should be able to give you
1. your transcripts that say you completed and have graduated
2. A paper that says that you are awaiting your degree.
For some reason, having my transcripts taht said I completed my MA wasn-t enough, they also wanted the little paper. It worked for Korea.
Degree. diploma. Think it depends. I-ve heard it be called both. |
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hawly
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all very much!
I was worried that I needed the degree (piece of paper) in order to get the Visa. Hopefully my university will be kind enough to write something that says I have completed my degree. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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denise wrote: |
Glenski--I always thought that "degree" meant the field you studied and the fact that you completed it to a certain level--BA, MA, whatever--and "diploma" just meant the actual piece of paper. |
Actually, the word "major" is for the field of study. Degree can be a bit iffy in definition, depending on one's nationality. Canadians can get a 2 or 3 year college "diploma", as it's called (I think), but in the USA the word diploma is used primarily for high school graduation status. That's another reason I strongly suggest saying degree if it came from a college. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, here in Canada, you can get a two year diploma or two year associate's degree (basically the same thing) and then the four year degree. After four years of study, you can get both a diploma and a degree (I have both) through a "ladder". |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:57 am Post subject: |
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It will probably help if you add 'certificate' when saying e.g. 'I will send you a copy of my degree'. But I suppose 'degree diploma' could be worth trying out, just for a laugh.  |
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