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Jobs Requiring Official Diploma?

 
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hawly



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Jobs Requiring Official Diploma? Reply with quote

I recently graduated with degrees in History and Archaeology but our graduation ceremony isn't until June. According to the research I've done, I won't be able to obtain my diploma until the graduation ceremony.

So my questions are:

How do I apply for a job without my diploma? Are Official Transcripts acceptable?

If it helps I am applying to jobs in Korea and Japan.

Probably a stupid question but I haven't found a clear answer yet. Thank you for reading!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Don't call it a diploma. If you graduated from college, call it a degree.

2. As for Japan, if you cannot provide the degree parchment itself or a certified copy. then get your school to provide a certified official letter stating you have graduated, and support that with sealed transcripts.
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AjarnIam



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never understood why official transcripts aren't enough.
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denise



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski--I always thought that "degree" meant the field you studied and the fact that you completed it to a certain level--BA, MA, whatever--and "diploma" just meant the actual piece of paper.

Anyway, back to the question... the schools that you're applying to will see that you're a recent graduate. If the admin staff have half a brain, they will realize that you don't yet have the paper and make allowances for you--possibly by accepting transcripts until you've got the correct documentation. This isn't an issue that should cost you a job.

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOur graduation ceremony and getting your degree are two different things.

I finished in December and had my degree three weeks later. It should have been two, but with the holidays, things were slow.

Ask if you can get your degree before the ceremony. They don-t even give you your degree at the ceremony, so it might be possible. It never hurts to ask.

If it-s not possible, then they should be able to give you
1. your transcripts that say you completed and have graduated
2. A paper that says that you are awaiting your degree.

For some reason, having my transcripts taht said I completed my MA wasn-t enough, they also wanted the little paper. It worked for Korea.

Degree. diploma. Think it depends. I-ve heard it be called both.
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hawly



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all very much!

I was worried that I needed the degree (piece of paper) in order to get the Visa. Hopefully my university will be kind enough to write something that says I have completed my degree.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denise wrote:
Glenski--I always thought that "degree" meant the field you studied and the fact that you completed it to a certain level--BA, MA, whatever--and "diploma" just meant the actual piece of paper.
Actually, the word "major" is for the field of study. Degree can be a bit iffy in definition, depending on one's nationality. Canadians can get a 2 or 3 year college "diploma", as it's called (I think), but in the USA the word diploma is used primarily for high school graduation status. That's another reason I strongly suggest saying degree if it came from a college.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, here in Canada, you can get a two year diploma or two year associate's degree (basically the same thing) and then the four year degree. After four years of study, you can get both a diploma and a degree (I have both) through a "ladder".
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will probably help if you add 'certificate' when saying e.g. 'I will send you a copy of my degree'. But I suppose 'degree diploma' could be worth trying out, just for a laugh. Smile
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