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tambok17
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 Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:42 am Post subject: Mazoon College Contract Revealed |
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From my experiences and what I have heard ( albeit too late)about Mazoon college from some other teachers, the administration there seems to prefer that you see the contract only after you arrive in the Sultanate. The contract, according to some, and also, from what I have experienced myself is not shown to you when you board the plane.
What the teachers are sent is the Letter of Offer and they sign it. Some instructors have said that if they had known what the contract actually says, they would never have come to work at Mazoon.
I am; therefore, putting the apparently oft-undisclosed contract online so that you can download it and make an informed decision whether you want to go and work at Mazoon College. Based on some posts here, there are many illegal clauses in the contract. Also, kindly pay attention to the fact that the amount of money paid for overtime- which I was not paid for two months although the contract apparently says I should have- is left blank. In addition, please examine the passport policy and the policy for those who want to go on vacation in the summer. Look at the salary/benefit/allowance breakdown, as well. And the quitting procedure- you may have to pay them money if you want to quit. Like several month's salary. Even with an advanced notice? Very unclear.
Scary!
I join other teachers who say that had they known what was in store for them, they would have never accepted the job.
Please note:
1)I have erased the name of the teacher.
2)I have also erased the name of the nearest airport the teacher had arrived from.
3) I have cleaned up some smudges and also, removed the Arabic version of the contract.
4) Please use the blue button on the site- below the text, to download it and examine the conditions of the contract. It is not clear enough if you just look at it online.
Here are the URLs
http://www.4shared.com/file/221046504/cf0c7bb1/Mazoon_College_Contract_Page_1.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/221047250/8e53a0d/Mazoon_College_Contract_Page_2.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/221047653/96e5c36b/Mazoon_College_Contract_Page_3.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/221047945/6dc11022/Mazoon_College_Contract_Page_4.html
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Mazoon College Contract Revealed |
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| tambok17 wrote: |
| What the teachers are sent is the Letter of Offer and they sign it. |
Not to dispute what Mr tambok is saying about the negatives of working at Mazoon - a place that has always had some issues dealing with their expat teachers.
But, with my 4 Gulf employers in 3 different countries... all national universities/Colleges... I never once saw a contract before arrival. I was sent the offer letter, accepted it, signed the contract after arrival. There was never a problem with that procedure.
The answer I guess is to make sure of the reputation of the employer,
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veiledsentiments
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This contract reads pretty standard as to the lower tier employers. Pretty paltry leave time... only 30 days when the norm is 45-60. I didn't see anything about passports... which page was that?
I know that they hold passports as do almost all non-governmental employers.
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With Malice Toward None
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I had met the guys in admin last year. Job:You go there in the morning, sit there till you are called, leave at 1 or 2 then again back at 4. No pick ups, nothing. And when you ask them about pay, as slippery as eels. I got up and left. |
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tambok17
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
This contract reads pretty standard as to the lower tier employers. Pretty paltry leave time... only 30 days when the norm is 45-60. I didn't see anything about passports... which page was that?
I know that they hold passports as do almost all non-governmental employers.
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Dhofar University does not hold passports. My Saudi employers sent me contracts before I boarded the plane. The chapter on passports is in article 11 of the contract.
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carrottop
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't work for anyone who insisted on keeping my passport. This is for 'control freak' institutes! I have been in Oman since 2001 and never have I had this situation. ( wouldn't be still here if I had) |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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As I've said before... I had one employer in Oman who held my passport and it was absolutely ZERO problem. If I decided on Wednesday afternoon that I wanted to drive to the Emirates, as I walked out, I asked for it and it was handed to me in the time it took someone to open the safe and pull it out. Thus, there was nothing to stop me from driving to the airport and leaving forever.
It all comes down to what Scot47 always says... pick your masters carefully. 
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| With Malice Toward None wrote: |
| I had met the guys in admin last year. Job:You go there in the morning, sit there till you are called, leave at 1 or 2 then again back at 4. No pick ups, nothing. And when you ask them about pay, as slippery as eels. I got up and left. |
I am not sure I understand the story. You went to apply there? Please elaborate. |
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PattyFlipper
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
This contract reads pretty standard as to the lower tier employers. Pretty paltry leave time... only 30 days when the norm is 45-60. I didn't see anything about passports... which page was that?
I know that they hold passports as do almost all non-governmental employers.
VS |
Sorry VS, but I have to disagree with this. Most private sector employers DO NOT hold passports, and as I said in another thread it is illegal for them to do so. What does often happen, in the finest traditions of discrimination so prevalent in the Gulf, is that the passports of non-Western personnel may be retained, whereas Westerners (who employers know are much more likely to protest), are allowed to keep theirs.
| veiledsentiments wrote: |
| As I've said before... I had one employer in Oman who held my passport and it was absolutely ZERO problem. If I decided on Wednesday afternoon that I wanted to drive to the Emirates, as I walked out, I asked for it and it was handed to me in the time it took someone to open the safe and pull it out. Thus, there was nothing to stop me from driving to the airport and leaving forever. VS |
And what happens if you have say a dire family emergency on Wednesday evening which necessitates your immediate departure from the country? Even if you are able to track down Mr. Ali from HR, what are the chances that you could cajole him into going into the office at the weekend (assuming that he is able to get access in the first place) to give you your passport?
Do not allow any employer to hold your passport. It IS illegal and most are well aware that they are not supposed to do it. |
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With Malice Toward None
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| tambok17 wrote: |
| With Malice Toward None wrote: |
| I had met the guys in admin last year. Job:You go there in the morning, sit there till you are called, leave at 1 or 2 then again back at 4. No pick ups, nothing. And when you ask them about pay, as slippery as eels. I got up and left. |
I am not sure I understand the story. You went to apply there? Please elaborate. |
Yes, I was working elsewhere, and a friend who got a better job while working there asked to go meet the admin for sem beginning Sep 09 opps, so went there and met some people in admin. There were two young lady teachers whom I met there who said, join, we need you. Obviously under strain. The lady whom I met seemed interested, sent me to an absolute moron and kept looking at me as if I had asked for his daughter in marriage. He would not fix anything and seemed powerless, too. If we have students-we-pay-if-we-don't-eat-dust kind of job, I thought, better get out. But all ye desperate/needy the college is real, they pay reasonably well, you need to have a car,
By the way, you asked out of personl interest or phishing?   |
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ThaneKerner
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| With Malice Toward None wrote: |
.... There were two young lady teachers whom I met there who said, join, we need you. Obviously under strain. The lady whom I met seemed interested, sent me to an absolute moron and kept looking at me as if I had asked for his daughter in marriage. He would not fix anything and seemed powerless, too. If we have students-we-pay-if-we-don't-eat-dust kind of job, I thought, better get out. But all ye desperate/needy the college is real, they pay reasonably well, you need to have a car,
By the way, you asked out of personl interest or phishing? |
Sounds like Al Musanna College of Technology, a place to avoid at all costs. Actually, one doesn't NEED a car to work in Oman. Taxis are plentiful. Even the cheap minivans can scoot you around when you need if you're not going to work. Of course, you could end up at the dumpy digs Bahwan provides down in Al Khoud. You'll be taking hour-long rides one way, every day. And remember Bahwan will want three months' notice or three months' blood from you if you want to leave a contract early. At ACT, you'll more than likely want to leave it early.
The TRUTH will keep you free.
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| PattyFlipper wrote: |
| And what happens if you have say a dire family emergency on Wednesday evening which necessitates your immediate departure from the country? Even if you are able to track down Mr. Ali from HR, what are the chances that you could cajole him into going into the office at the weekend (assuming that he is able to get access in the first place) to give you your passport? |
You are really digging for a reason to be upset about something here. It was not a problem and even this unlikely scenario would not have been a problem. A phone call would have had someone there to meet me and give me the passport.
As I said... pick your employer carefully.
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PattyFlipper
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| Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
As I said... pick your employer carefully.
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Oh I always do. And that includes NOT working for anyone who would wish to keep my passport (Saudi Arabia excepted). |
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tambok17
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:42 am Post subject: |
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He would not fix anything and seemed powerless, too. If we have students-we-pay-if-we-don't-eat-dust kind of job, I thought, better get out.
By the way, you asked out of personal interest or phishing? |
Well, they had students who paid close to USD 40,000 for the course and the contract said I would be paid every month, but they still never paid me.
I am asking because you did not elaborate and your initial post seemed lacking in details. I am not phishing. I just want to know more. |
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With Malice Toward None
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:35 am Post subject: That's it |
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Tambok
Well sorry I suspected. Too many people these days playing tricks.
The place is posh but people there seemed somewhat reclusive. If they have enrolment they know how to collect fees, if they collect why can't they pay you?
You can sue them because you have the contract. They are making sure you will stay, by keeping the backlog. At the mention of legal redress they'll pay.
Regards,
WMTN. |
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