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DaveW125



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:59 am    Post subject: MA, MS or MEd Reply with quote

I've just accepted my first job at an international school and have been looking at masters programs, specifically in International Education, to help improve my knowledge and ability.

I have 3 different courses in mind however one is an MA, one is a MS and one is a MEd all in International Education. Does anyone know what the difference in these qualifications is and would they all be held in the same regard by employers around the world?

thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:44 pm    Post subject: A taught master's degree is exactly that Reply with quote

It is up to each individual university or college to decide what the degree is going to be called, yet a taught master's degree should be treated as exactly that: a taught master's degree, no matter whether it is called an MA, an MS (or MSc in the UK, NZ, Ireland, Australia and Canada) or an MEd.

Hence, it ought to be quite enough to say to any potential employer that one has a master's (degree) in whatever subject it is.

Some universities may even allow you to choose the degree title of some postgraduate degree programmes, although by no means all.

For example, students can register for the master's degree in education of the Open University (UK) and not necessarily have to choose the title, whether an MEd or an MA in Education, some of which are "badged" (e.g., an MA or MEd in Applied Linguistics) until the moment that they are offered the degree at the end of their studies.

It does not matter which optional modules you do (there is only the one compulsory module), the choice of title is basically yours.

For the record, I happen to have both of the above! Very Happy
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robertokun



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the MEd will be most highly regarded. Especially if you want to get into administration, this is the master's that most teachers take in the States--albeit with the corresponding modules or classes that lead to that track. I don't have one myself, so I can't give a definitive answer. Maybe more people with one will chip in their two cents.
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Molson



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: MA, MS or MEd Reply with quote

DaveW125 wrote:
I've just accepted my first job at an international school and have been looking at masters programs, specifically in International Education, to help improve my knowledge and ability.

I have 3 different courses in mind however one is an MA, one is a MS and one is a MEd all in International Education. Does anyone know what the difference in these qualifications is and would they all be held in the same regard by employers around the world?

thanks in advance


Let me ask you a couple questions:

1) Are you a certified teacher in your home country?

If Yes: I would recommend you look at what it is you want to get out of your degree. The M.Eds mostly look at theory and have quite a few divisions of what you can study. The most common seems to be Curriculum and Teaching.

If No: You probably want to get an MA in Teaching that leads up to a certification.

2) Is your school a real international school? That is, is it accredited? The answer you give to this question will prompt me to reply further.

I am a certified teacher who teaches at an accredited international school, so I guess you could say I know what the deal is.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People do masters degrees in educational leadership in order to get into administration in North America and English speaking nations (especially, though not exclusively at the k-12 level- they do them to become a principal). So those will usually be M.Ed, simply because they are offered through Faculties of Education (although in Australia, some masters degrees are simply labelled M+ discipline, like MTESOL for Masters of TESOL).

to the OP,
Your issue will be that although EFL instructors are international teachers, it isn't exactly the same as what you're doing because we generally are teaching in local schools- the education designed by and for the local people (for example the Japanese education system in Japan). So those of us with masters degrees specific to our work area have masters degrees specific to language teaching (M.Ed or MA or M or maybe even M.Sc in TESOL or Applied Linguistics or SLE [Second Language Education] or something like that).

Generally, in the Applied Linguistics/ TESOL world, it's all about where the program is housed. It's called an M.Ed if it's in the Faculty of Education. It's called an MA if it's in the Faculty of Arts and Science. It may be called an M.Sc as well... but I don't think anybody has ever really figured out why Confused other than it may sound more impressive- especially in the US which still has a mild tendency to call things 'science' even when they aren't (a throwback to the 1950s when 'the scientific method' meant 'intellectually challenging', I suppose as opposed to the 'airy-fairy' method that was 'arts'). So what you do is look at the courses offered and the requirements and go with the one closest to what you want to do. Always look at what the research interests of the profs are.
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DaveW125



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: MA, MS or MEd Reply with quote

Molson wrote:
DaveW125 wrote:
I've just accepted my first job at an international school and have been looking at masters programs, specifically in International Education, to help improve my knowledge and ability.

I have 3 different courses in mind however one is an MA, one is a MS and one is a MEd all in International Education. Does anyone know what the difference in these qualifications is and would they all be held in the same regard by employers around the world?

thanks in advance


Let me ask you a couple questions:

1) Are you a certified teacher in your home country?

If Yes: I would recommend you look at what it is you want to get out of your degree. The M.Eds mostly look at theory and have quite a few divisions of what you can study. The most common seems to be Curriculum and Teaching.

If No: You probably want to get an MA in Teaching that leads up to a certification.

2) Is your school a real international school? That is, is it accredited? The answer you give to this question will prompt me to reply further.

I am a certified teacher who teaches at an accredited international school, so I guess you could say I know what the deal is.


I'm not currently certified in my home country so the courses I have been looking at are either the ITC offered by the ECIS that allows you to transfer credit to NOVA university in the US for the MS. The other course I am looking at is a PGCE course from the UK ( the PGCE is the UK version of certification ) that leads to the MA or can be transferred to another MEd course from another UK university.

With regards to the school, I'm not sure about accreditation, i Know it is not an IB school however, it is fairly new ( 2006 ) . All the teachers are fully certified and seem to have a lot of experience so i would certainly assume it is something that the school is working towards.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: MA, MS or MEd Reply with quote

DaveW125 wrote:
Molson wrote:
DaveW125 wrote:
I've just accepted my first job at an international school and have been looking at masters programs, specifically in International Education, to help improve my knowledge and ability.

I have 3 different courses in mind however one is an MA, one is a MS and one is a MEd all in International Education. Does anyone know what the difference in these qualifications is and would they all be held in the same regard by employers around the world?

thanks in advance


Let me ask you a couple questions:

1) Are you a certified teacher in your home country?

If Yes: I would recommend you look at what it is you want to get out of your degree. The M.Eds mostly look at theory and have quite a few divisions of what you can study. The most common seems to be Curriculum and Teaching.

If No: You probably want to get an MA in Teaching that leads up to a certification.

2) Is your school a real international school? That is, is it accredited? The answer you give to this question will prompt me to reply further.

I am a certified teacher who teaches at an accredited international school, so I guess you could say I know what the deal is.


I'm not currently certified in my home country so the courses I have been looking at are either the ITC offered by the ECIS that allows you to transfer credit to NOVA university in the US for the MS. The other course I am looking at is a PGCE course from the UK ( the PGCE is the UK version of certification ) that leads to the MA or can be transferred to another MEd course from another UK university.

With regards to the school, I'm not sure about accreditation, i Know it is not an IB school however, it is fairly new ( 2006 ) . All the teachers are fully certified and seem to have a lot of experience so i would certainly assume it is something that the school is working towards.


So what you want to do is get something that is going to get you certified in your home country. Forget about M.Ed, you need something that is going to help your career. An M.Ed or MA without certification in your home country is going to put your career to an end quickly.

I don't know any of the better international schools that hire non-certified teachers.

What programs can lead to certification? That I have no idea about.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: MA, MS or MEd Reply with quote

DaveW125 wrote:
I've just accepted my first job at an international school and have been looking at masters programs, specifically in International Education, to help improve my knowledge and ability.

I have 3 different courses in mind however one is an MA, one is a MS and one is a MEd all in International Education. Does anyone know what the difference in these qualifications is and would they all be held in the same regard by employers around the world?

thanks in advance
Start with reviewing the differences among the three degrees: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Difference_in_Master_of_Education_vs_Master_of_Science_vs_Master_of_Arts

Which one is going to best suit your needs and interests?
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