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Switching from a working holiday visa to a work visa?
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Kaitou



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:41 am    Post subject: Switching from a working holiday visa to a work visa? Reply with quote

Has anyone done this before, or heard of this being done? I was just wondering if it was difficult or a fairly straightforward procedure (assuming there was a company to provide sponsorship).
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Bread



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see no reason why it should be any different than changing from a tourist to a work visa, which is very straightforward. You won't be able to get another working holiday visa, though.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a number of people who have done this. Seems to be quite straightforward as long as you are eligible for a working visa.
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Kaitou



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, good to know. I'm just considering my options... but you do have a point, I wouldn't be able to get a working holiday visa again. Thanks guys!
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought you could only get one WHV anyway?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHV's are issued once in a lifetime theoretically. There have been some exceptions.

People with dual nationality from countries that both offer the WHV option is one.

People who have changed / renewed their passport (so that there is no record on it) is another, but with computerized records these days, I'm not so sure this is as easily accomplished.

Basically, for most, get the WHV and extend it until the final expiration (12 or 18 months, depending on nationality), and then it's gone forever.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering why people are focusing on only being possible to get one WHV in a lifetime, since the OP never mentioned wanting to switch back to a WHV afterwards. The people I know who switched to a working visa from a WHV had done almost a year on their WHV so it was about to expire.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps they are thinking that someone who gets the WHV should milk it for the whole 12 or 18 months it is worth, instead of using it to get a foot in the door, and then switch to a work visa before the WHV expires.
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CanadianGirl21



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told that I had to get a WHV by a company that offered me a job (last Friday) and that it would take a few weeks to process (not much time left!). When I told my fiance (Japanese, currently in Tokyo), he didn't think there was much point in me getting a WHV since I intend on leaving for Japan in about 2 weeks. He said he has many friends who came to Japan with just a tourist visa, found a job and then the processing from a tourist visa to a work visa took about a week.

Any thoughts?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the country, I think 2 weeks is cutting it thin to get a WHV. Contact your embassy and find out.

The Canadian WHV site says this:
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Processing Time

Working-Holiday Visas are normally processed in a minimum of one week. Applications submitted on short notice will not be accepted.
http://www.ca.emb-japan.go.jp/canada_e/Visa/working_holiday.html

Why the rush to get here? Is it your rush or the employer's?

Yes, you can change to a work visa once you're here, but it'll still take 4-8 weeks. You'd also use up that WHV, a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need the company to sponser your work visa. Not all companies want to or can for whatever reasons. You need to find out whether they can and would be willing to first.

And whilst visa renewal can take about a week, I'd be surprised if applying for a COE and then changing visa status didn't take a bit longer. COE apps can take up to a couple of months. Depending on when exactly you were due to start working, you could find yourself working illegally initially.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
You need the company to sponser your work visa. Not all companies want to or can for whatever reasons. You need to find out whether they can and would be willing to first.
Necessary only if CanadianGirl21 wants a work visa. The employer seems happy enough to allow CanadianGirl21 to work on a WHV.

Heads up to CanadianGirl21:
You'll pay 20% taxes on a WHV.

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And whilst visa renewal can take about a week
Not sure why you are talking about a renewal here. CanadianGirl21 is talking about getting a WHV and then changing (not renewing) to a work visa.

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I'd be surprised if applying for a COE and then changing visa status didn't take a bit longer. COE apps can take up to a couple of months. Depending on when exactly you were due to start working, you could find yourself working illegally initially.
CanadianGirl21 wouldn't apply for a COE and then change visa status. It's pretty straightforward to change status of residence (go from WHV to work visa). You make it sound like there are 2 steps here that aren't even related.
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CanadianGirl21



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why the rush to get here? Is it your rush or the employer's?


My rush. I have things to get done and people to meet before I start my training and teaching in April.

The employer just said that I would need a WHV before arriving in Japan because it would take a long time to process a work visa (and thus an improper visa would mean that my working there is illegal).

I may have to wait an additional week though...

Quote:
You'll pay 20% taxes on a WHV.


Is that just the WHV, or would the working visa or spousal visa be the same?

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Yes, you can change to a work visa once you're here, but it'll still take 4-8 weeks. You'd also use up that WHV, a once in a lifetime opportunity.


The WHV isn't that important to me in the long run. At some point in the future I will have a spousal visa (might be the easiest route to begin with as well).

Thanks for the input.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CanadianGirl21 wrote:
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You'll pay 20% taxes on a WHV.


Is that just the WHV, or would the working visa or spousal visa be the same?
Just the WHV, which is why I mentioned it. How soon are you planning to get married? Spousal visa would remedy a lot of headaches.
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CanadianGirl21



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
CanadianGirl21 wrote:
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You'll pay 20% taxes on a WHV.


Is that just the WHV, or would the working visa or spousal visa be the same?
Just the WHV, which is why I mentioned it. How soon are you planning to get married? Spousal visa would remedy a lot of headaches.


GOOD TO KNOW!
We can't afford the ceremony and party right now, so we would just have to process the paperwork and have the wedding ceremony/party later.
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