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gallerygirl



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Newb questions - would appreciate any advice Reply with quote

Hello,
Though I'm getting a big long in the tooth for this sort of thing I'm 29), I've decided that I really want to go ahead and pursue teaching abroad in Japan, an idea I've entertained for the past 8 years but have not done due to various life circumstances.

A little background about me: I have studied abroad twice in Japan and bachelor's degree in Japanese.

I was hoping to get some answers to questions I have regarding beginning this process.

1. How do I avoid scam schools? I currently work with ESL teachers here in the US, and have heard some pretty bad horror stories (though mostly about Korea and not Japan).

2. How can I find employment through a smaller company as opposed to one of the larger conglomerates like Aeon? My dream is to work in a small school in the countryside.

3. What is the general hiring season? I have a feeling I have missed it, as it seems that most jobs posted recently begin in April.

I'm sure I'll have more questions later, but if anyone can help me with these inquiries, I would very much appreciate it!

-Abigail Confused
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Newb questions - would appreciate any advice Reply with quote

gallerygirl wrote:
Hello,
Though I'm getting a big long in the tooth for this sort of thing I'm 29)
Puh-lease! Plenty here including myself who are a lot older. You're just a handful of years older than the average newbie.

1. How do I avoid scam schools?
You learn what is a scam situation or contract, or you come to places like this with your suspicions.


2. How can I find employment through a smaller company as opposed to one of the larger conglomerates like Aeon?
You come here to look around. That may mean getting an initial job with one of the bigger outfits or JET first to get your foot in the door, or it may mean coming here without a job and looking around. From now to April is peak hiring season.

3. What is the general hiring season? I have a feeling I have missed it, as it seems that most jobs posted recently begin in April.
Read some of the posts here. Peak season is Feb to March because most places have an academic year beginning in April (international schools do not). Hiring for ALT positions may have started 6 months ago; JET's deadline varies with country, but is at the end of the calendar year for the following August start.
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gallerygirl



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your response! I appreciate it. I was afraid unfortunately that going through an eikaiwa was pretty much the only way to get one's foot in the door. The reason I am wary of those is because I currently work in the administration office of an ESL school in America that teachers international students. Basically what I learned is that they are customers before students, and any minor complaint is raised to threat level orange. The stress is tremendous.

Does anyone here have any positive experiences working with one of the large eikaiwas? Are they even hiring in this bad economy?

Thanks again.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for GEOS for 20 months in 2002 - 2004. It was fine, a little too focused on the money for my liking, but it was a good opportunity to cut my teeth and learn a few things about teaching before I left.

The attitude to complaints might just be the culture of the school you work in, although I'd suggest that it's similar to the way that Japanese schools deal with them.

Complaints happen in any country or context, how you deal with them is largely the same, IMO.

If you have good Japanese, it will help you a great deal, although I would avoid it in class if I were you -it can lead to complaints.

I would suggest that you spend some money on getting a recognised ELT certificate - that with a good level of Japanese will really help you find good work outside of the major eikaiwa chains, in my opinion.


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ShioriEigoKyoushi



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the OP said, smaller, independent schools. Being able to conduct the interview, or the initial contacts at least, partly in Japanese helped me out a great deal, even though my Japanese isn't/wasn't that great.

The most professional school I worked at in Japan insisted on a CELTA/Cert. TESOL/postgraduate teaching qualification. Such schools do exist. The eikaiwa industry is not entirely composed of cowboys and jokers! Smile

I should probably append "YMMV / I'm only talking about eikaiwa" to my posts for clarity.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gallerygirl wrote:
Thanks for your response! I appreciate it. I was afraid unfortunately that going through an eikaiwa was pretty much the only way to get one's foot in the door.
Where did you get that idea? Eikaiwa or ALT are the usual entry level opportunities, not just eikaiwa. If one is qualified, perhaps even a (rare) direct hire job through a BOE, or a direct hire at a company or business English agency. Eikaiwa is not the only choice.

Mr_Monkey wrote:
The most professional school I worked at in Japan insisted on a CELTA/Cert. TESOL/postgraduate teaching qualification. Such schools do exist.
True, but they are pretty rare.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Newb questions - would appreciate any advice Reply with quote

gallerygirl wrote:
1. How do I avoid scam schools?
Use common sense about schools/chains that e.g ask you to arrive in Japan first on a tourist visa after which they'll help you get a work visa. Ask questions here and on gaijinpot about specific schools.
gallerygirl wrote:
2. How can I find employment through a smaller company as opposed to one of the larger conglomerates like Aeon? My dream is to work in a small school in the countryside.
Avoid applying to big chains, look out for ads from other organisations and ask people already in the field for their recommendations HINT HINT: C'mon peeps!
gallerygirl wrote:
3. What is the general hiring season? I have a feeling I have missed it, as it seems that most jobs posted recently begin in April.
Not really. State schools have hiring seasons, Eikaiwa hire to cover staff leaving and that is a year round process. December January is bad for hiring, people are too busy with the New Year break; any other time is fine. Most jobs posted recently are for April starts because it is now February and the advertisement application acceptance landing card processing tickets booking arrival job start process takes about three months. Most jobs posted next month will be for May, and so on.
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