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WoMenDeAi



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: What credits should i earn? Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
WoMenDeAi wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
WoMenDeAi wrote:
Hello.
i'm a bit new to this and i'm wondering what kind of credits i should obtain to have a good teaching job. i'm a semester and summer away from my freshman year in high school so i have plenty of time. Teaching in Korea interests me so i
really want to know what i should earn in my school years so i can get a good job teaching in Korea.
Are you interested in teaching adults or teaching children? If you're interested in teaching adults then, as some have suggested, getting a four-year degree in whatever you want and taking a four-week TEFL course like CELTA, Trinity or SIT (or the various generic versions out there) will be enough to get you into an entry-level position. If you're looking at teaching English (as a foreign language, not that stuff in American junior and senior high schools that they call "English") as a career, then you might want to pursue a four-year degree in ESL or bilingual education (for some schools that provide such degrees, go here: http://www.universities.com/edu/Bachelor_degrees_in_Teaching_English_as_a_Second_or_Foreign_Language_ESL_Language_Instructor.html, though some of these programs are for teaching children) and eventually go on to get a master's degree in applied linguistics or TESL. If you're interested in teaching children then you'll be better off pursuing government teacher licensure (which certain four-year degree programs would lead to) with an emphasis on ESL (or, as is so often the case in America, as a supplement to a general education teaching licensure).

In the short term, does your school have advanced placement courses that will allow you to earn some college credit while you're in high school? If so, I would encourage you to take as many of those as you can.


Thank you for taking the time to write all this. This information is very helpful.
So, do you have answers to the questions I asked?


Well.. I am interested in teaching children in middle school or lower. I was planning to teach high school but that might not be for me. Oh, and I have another question for you. I am a citizen of an English speaking country, is there a rule stating that you are required to live in that country for a set amount of years?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: What credits should i earn? Reply with quote

WoMenDeAi wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
WoMenDeAi wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
WoMenDeAi wrote:
Hello.
i'm a bit new to this and i'm wondering what kind of credits i should obtain to have a good teaching job. i'm a semester and summer away from my freshman year in high school so i have plenty of time. Teaching in Korea interests me so i
really want to know what i should earn in my school years so i can get a good job teaching in Korea.
Are you interested in teaching adults or teaching children? If you're interested in teaching adults then, as some have suggested, getting a four-year degree in whatever you want and taking a four-week TEFL course like CELTA, Trinity or SIT (or the various generic versions out there) will be enough to get you into an entry-level position. If you're looking at teaching English (as a foreign language, not that stuff in American junior and senior high schools that they call "English") as a career, then you might want to pursue a four-year degree in ESL or bilingual education (for some schools that provide such degrees, go here: http://www.universities.com/edu/Bachelor_degrees_in_Teaching_English_as_a_Second_or_Foreign_Language_ESL_Language_Instructor.html, though some of these programs are for teaching children) and eventually go on to get a master's degree in applied linguistics or TESL. If you're interested in teaching children then you'll be better off pursuing government teacher licensure (which certain four-year degree programs would lead to) with an emphasis on ESL (or, as is so often the case in America, as a supplement to a general education teaching licensure).

In the short term, does your school have advanced placement courses that will allow you to earn some college credit while you're in high school? If so, I would encourage you to take as many of those as you can.


Thank you for taking the time to write all this. This information is very helpful.
So, do you have answers to the questions I asked?


Well.. I am interested in teaching children in middle school or lower. I was planning to teach high school but that might not be for me. Oh, and I have another question for you. I am a citizen of an English speaking country, is there a rule stating that you are required to live in that country for a set amount of years?
If you're interested in teaching children, then follow the course I suggested previously: "If you're interested in teaching children then you'll be better off pursuing government teacher licensure (which certain four-year degree programs would lead to) with an emphasis on ESL (or, as is so often the case in America, as a supplement to a general education teaching licensure)." The best places to work, if you want to teach children, are the international schools (such as those that use the IBO curriculum - for more about them go to www.ibo.org) but to get those jobs you have to have a teaching license from your home country (a state teaching license if you're from the US) and at least two years of post-licensure experience in the classroom. That would be the best way to go. You could also take a young-learners TEFL course (such as the CELTYL) or the one offered by Coventry House International/ONTESOL (www.ontesol.ca) but most countries are still going to want you to have a four-year college degree just to get a work visa. So, go the route I suggested.

As for the English-speaking country question, it is generally assumed that you would be a "native speaker," i.e. someone born or at least raised in a certain English-speaking country.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one has American citizenship but has never lived there, it might come up in the interview. This fact might deter some employers from hiring the American (or others in similar circumstances) because they might be perceived as someone who doesn't know enough about the American culture. Be aware of this and keep a low profile.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: What credits should i earn? Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
So, do you have answers to the questions I asked?


Chancellor, you do realize the the poster is 13 years old. How is she supposed to know if she wants to teach adults when she isn't one yet?
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WoMenDeAi



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
If one has American citizenship but has never lived there, it might come up in the interview. This fact might deter some employers from hiring the American (or others in similar circumstances) because they might be perceived as someone who doesn't know enough about the American culture. Be aware of this and keep a low profile.


Thank you for telling me this. I was worried because I have only lived in the U.S. for 3 years and I started moving to military bases all around the pacific.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoMenDeAi wrote:
Glenski wrote:
If one has American citizenship but has never lived there, it might come up in the interview. This fact might deter some employers from hiring the American (or others in similar circumstances) because they might be perceived as someone who doesn't know enough about the American culture. Be aware of this and keep a low profile.


Thank you for telling me this. I was worried because I have only lived in the U.S. for 3 years and I started moving to military bases all around the pacific.
So, are you a military brat? What schools have you been going to? If you've been going to DoD schools then you've been getting an American education.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: What credits should i earn? Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
So, do you have answers to the questions I asked?


Chancellor, you do realize the the poster is 13 years old. How is she supposed to know if she wants to teach adults when she isn't one yet?
The same way someone that age might know he or she wants to pursue any career.
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WoMenDeAi



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: What credits should i earn? Reply with quote

Chancellor wrote:
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
So, do you have answers to the questions I asked?


Chancellor, you do realize the the poster is 13 years old. How is she supposed to know if she wants to teach adults when she isn't one yet?
The same way someone that age might know he or she wants to pursue any career.


Thank you for sticking up for me Chancellor.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: What credits should i earn? Reply with quote

WoMenDeAi wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Chancellor wrote:
So, do you have answers to the questions I asked?


Chancellor, you do realize the the poster is 13 years old. How is she supposed to know if she wants to teach adults when she isn't one yet?
The same way someone that age might know he or she wants to pursue any career.


Thank you for sticking up for me Chancellor.
Sometimes we adults forget that we were 13 once. Besides, it wasn't all that long ago (6 years; I know, an eternity in the life of a teenager) that my daughter was 13.

Once you more narrowly focus your interest in teaching English to speakers of other languages you can start taking steps toward that goal. Feel free to e-mail me if you want to discuss this further.
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WoMenDeAi



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chancellor, can I just PM you? When i try to email you it's not working.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoMenDeAi wrote:
Glenski wrote:
If one has American citizenship but has never lived there, it might come up in the interview. This fact might deter some employers from hiring the American (or others in similar circumstances) because they might be perceived as someone who doesn't know enough about the American culture. Be aware of this and keep a low profile.


Thank you for telling me this. I was worried because I have only lived in the U.S. for 3 years and I started moving to military bases all around the pacific.
Then, technically, unless you lived and schooled off-base, you have never really left American soil, no matter what country you moved to.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things change. Most people change careers anout 6 times in their lifetime. I-ve been teaching for 7 years, but don-t think I want to do this for the next 20 years. 10 maybe, not 20.
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